Originally posted by h1a8
How much power did Superman's attacks increase, from hitting a probe hundreds to thousands of times to,
later on, one shotting the probes?Superman has feats above 50 Earth weights. Besides Prime and WBH, he has the best strength feats in all of comics.
Superman, normally, is already significantly stronger than Thor. Superman's feats are astronomically greater than Thor's. At best Superman is at least a magnitude stronger.
Thor's durability does not increase in WM, just his strength.
Hulk is the weakest here. Superman has always been stronger than ALL versions of Hulk, except WBH. WM Thor is stronger than WWH.
Anyway, if Superman can one shot a trans being then he can one shot WM Thor (who has normal Thor durability) and WWH. The HV alone would go through both like a hot knife through butter. Superman would drill huge human size holes in their chest with his feet.
I thought you didn't make that argument anymore? Remember...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, then why you go on and on about (X amount) Earth weights using real world math?
Originally posted by h1a8
You do not understand.
I'm stating TWO versions of the fight based off TWO different sets of views.Many posters post a character's highest showings as a representative of the character in the thread. If we go by that view then Cap stomps.
But if we use a more average version of the character then it becomes a different fight.
So it doesn't matter which view we use, as long as it makes for a good debate.
In your honest opinion, would using a more average Cap here make the thread debatable?
As far as Superman I have the mental block argument to show his fluctuations 😛
But that was a long time ago. I haven't argued that in forever.
Originally posted by panthergodLol. Answer this: is superman with his mental blocks off stronger than Kurse, BA, CM, Hyperion, Thor an supreme? Because they together cannot beat 100 thousand daxamites. Since you superman fans think he can beat 100 thousand daxamites, he should be able to beat the brakes off the 6 characters I mentioned at the same time right?
So the people with nothing valid to say on the subject are in agreement.
Originally posted by JBL
Lol. Answer this: is superman with his mental blocks off stronger than Kurse, BA, CM, Hyperion, Thor an supreme? Because they together cannot beat 100 thousand daxamites. Since you superman fans think he can beat 100 thousand daxamites, he should be able to beat the brakes off the 6 characters I mentioned at the same time right?
Give the quote where I made this claim specifically.
Ill wait.
Originally posted by JBL
You sure as hell didn't dispute it when superman fans made the claim, but as soon as people say he loses, you come a running.
The desperation you exude is quite amusing.
Superman has internally controlled dynamic strength. For decades. Anyone denying it is disqualified from pretending to have a valid opinion. Keep whining.
Originally posted by panthergodNot true at all, but nice dodge 😉
So no quote? I accept your concession that yourdesperate deflection has been countered.
I'm responsible for other peoples opinions now.The desperation you exude is quite amusing.
Superman has internally controlled dynamic strength. For decades. Anyone denying it is disqualified from pretending to have a valid opinion. Keep whining.
Originally posted by darthgooberThis is a thread where we are allowed to use the highest in order to determine who has the biggest increase in power under extreme circumstances.
I thought you didn't make that argument anymore? Remember...
If we were arguing average Superman then I wouldn't be talking about that he will be operating at 50 Earth weights in a forum. Because he wouldn't.
Originally posted by h1a8
This is a thread where we are allowed to use the highest in order to determine who has the biggest increase in power under extreme circumstances.If we were arguing average Superman then I wouldn't be talking about that he will be operating at 50 Earth weights in a forum. Because he wouldn't.
If we are using the highest then Hulk tanked a bomb while weakened that nearly split planet Skaar in half. Planet Skaar is 10 times the size of Earth. He also shifted the tectonics plate of that planet preventing it from splitting. Again, he was weakened when he did this. This doesn't include his other insane showings of Shaking Earth just by punching someone in the stomach or punching so hard he reversed time across the entire planet.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman's durability shits on Thor.
It's not close. Thor has been welted by bullets, cut by swords, etc.Superman has much higher lows and much higher highs.
You know the classic Juggernaut you like mentioning. Onslaught punched through his chest just by pinching it. Hulk tanked punches from a far more powerful Onslaught with ease.