Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry's body is just a shell.He can't be koed.
He can't be killed.
FYI :
Sentry > Molecule Man > Lifegiver Galactus > Lord Chaos & Master Order
There is an obvious attempt at ignoring Sentry's abilities. It doesn't matter.
If it makes you sleep better at night you can believe this ABC logic of yours and the no limits fallacy. I understand your motives though. Quans Thanos or RealityWarpers Sentry, maybe the forum needs things like this.
Originally posted by tkitna
You ask me to provide on panel proof and even that's not good enough for you.
Sentry is literally insane. His word isn't proof until it's backed by on panel showings.
How hard is it for you to understand? Oh right, it's you.
Yes, because that's what he wanted and he fought to stay dead.
There is literally no proof for this. Void did not wanted to die and Sentry said Thor murdered him.
Life seed brought him back to life. That's what is shown on panel and the writer also confirmed it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]In this case I'll only believe what we see on panel. I'm not going to deny Sentry stopping Exitar with Rogue or beating Thor.Anything else said by Sentry was complete nonsense and that's what Remender was trying to do. He was just an insane Superman doing nonsensical things.
"“If you want to take down Thor, resurrecting the Sentry and planting a Death Seed in him to make him even more powerful is a pretty good way to do that."
http://www.cbr.com/exclusive-remenders-uncanny-avengers-face-the-apocalypse/
That should also shut up those who think Death Sentry was just normal Sentry.
""What happens to a resurrected Sentry, who doesn't have The Void in his head anymore?" Who is still this mentally ill Superman who's got powers of a thousand exploding suns, but instead of The Void taking up space in his head, it's a Death persona from a Celestial, from an Apocalypse?"
https://www.newsarama.com/17851-rick-remender-revives-sentry-daken-in-uncanny-avengers.html
Sentry was resurrected. Both comics and writer confirmed it. End of debate.
Again, you asked for on panel proof and I provided it. There's plenty of it.
Well, it's not proof. It's gibberish from Sentry.
He fought himself to stay dead or else he would have came back like he did many, many times before.
He never died before. When he did, it needed life seed to bring him back to life.
It pretty much is out of his power. He stated on panel that the regeneration process was continuous and he had to battle his Void persona in order to stay dead. Once the Void personality was gone, he was able to stay deceased.
That's just what he thinks happened.
Remender confirmed Apocalypse Twins resurrected him. As the comic shows.
So are you saying Sentry can die but Void can't?
Again, context. He wanted to die. You know that though Abhi, but it defeats your argument so you refuse to admit it. Nobody else has any trouble understanding it. [/B]
Bob wanted to die. Void didn't and yet Thor killed him.
You just said if Void didn't want to die Sentry couldn't die.
So what is it now?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
He can be killed and he has been killed by beings like Thor. He wanted to die but the Void wanted to live and took control, Thor still killed it. We know that he can be koed by far far less, so it makes sense that Thor was able to kill him. His words are hyperbole, as seen on panel. Someone from the Skyfather tier would utterly stomp him.
And Bob regained enough control to allow it to happen. Even after it happened, it was stated that a long term battle commenced between Bob and the Void regarding regeneration from death and it went on so long that the Void got bored of it and allowed Bob to have his way. Hence the Apocalypse twins were able to retrieve him.
I cant argue about being KO'd or so forth. In a forum match, one could say that Thor could beat Dsentry because he bashed his head in and it took Sentry a few moments to come back from that, although Thor got the living hell beat out of him twice. I realize how it works. Sure some characters can take a forum win although they would lose in the end.
Why are his words hyperbole when it was shown and proven many times that death cant hold him? I'll never understand that argument when he was just stating the truth.
Skyfather tier? Probably so, but thats not given either He already punked Owen and its been mentioned more than once that he went up against Galactus. We dont know the context from that because we never saw the fight, but the Sentry was still around when it was being talked about.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sentry is literally insane. His word isn't proof until it's backed by on panel showings.
Good lord Abhi. How many scans and examples that back up his claim do you need?
How hard is it for you to understand? Oh right, it's you.
Yeah, I dont understand why you continue to ask for proof even after its provided. Its like you only pay attention to what you want and ignore what you asked for.
There is literally no proof for this. Void did not wanted to die and Sentry said Thor murdered him.
Except for the commentary from the Sentry himself explaining the battle he had with the Void in order to stay dead and the numerous other times he reappeared after apparently dying before. What do you think makes this instance different from all the others?
Life seed brought him back to life. That's what is shown on panel and the writer also confirmed it.
Who said otherwise? The Void left and Bob got his way and was officially dead, so yeah i'm on board with that. What i'm not on board with is that the Sentry or Void could be killed if they both wanted to live.
Well, it's not proof. It's gibberish from Sentry.
With several on panel examples to back it up.
He never died before. When he did, it needed life seed to bring him back to life.
Cripes Abhi. Lol. He wasnt dead when Owen tore him apart and took him down to the molecular level,,,,three different times? He wasnt dead when Lindy shot his face off? He wasnt dead when Morgan Le Fey blew him up? He wasnt dead when he flew to the sun and the only remains of his body was a bare skeleton? Damn. What was he then?
That's just what he thinks happened.
Ok so we are ignoring what the actual character and writer tells us. Where do we go from here then?
Remender confirmed Apocalypse Twins resurrected him. As the comic shows.
Not arguing that
So are you saying Sentry can die but Void can't?
They are one and the same, just different personalities pulling the vessel around. You didnt see the Void popping up when Bob won out and chose death did you?
Bob wanted to die. Void didn't and yet Thor killed him.
Bob's conscious won out in the end as it always does.
You just said if Void didn't want to die Sentry couldn't die.
So what is it now?
I said if Bob and the Void were to agree and ride the same side and chose life, they would not have died.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So Living Tribunal can't beat Sentry then?
I'm pretty sure LT would win Abhi, but we both know he plays on a different level. Who knows though. Nobody knows what the Sentry really is. Morgan erased him from existence and he popped right back. Again, its not a certainty.
Originally posted by tkitna
Good lord Abhi. How many scans and examples that back up his claim do you need?
A single scan which isn't gibberish from Sentry.
Yeah, I dont understand why you continue to ask for proof even after its provided. Its like you only pay attention to what you want and ignore what you asked for.
Because it's not proof. Sentry's words are not proof until they are backed by on panel proof.
Except for the commentary from the Sentry himself explaining the battle he had with the Void in order to stay dead and the numerous other times he reappeared after apparently dying before. What do you think makes this instance different from all the others?
So you think the character knew better than the writer who wrote the story and showed it on panel that Sentry was resurrected and not alive?
Did it occur to you that Sentry is insane and not everything he says is true?
Do you even know the character or just read his respect threads?
Who said otherwise? The Void left and Bob got his way and was officially dead, so yeah i'm on board with that. What i'm not on board with is that the Sentry or Void could be killed if they both wanted to live.
But Bob said he felt the Apocalypse twins reach out to him which means by his account he wasn't dead. He didn't say that after Void left he was dead.
You still have to show a single scan which states this.
With several on panel examples to back it up.
He was blasted apart but that doesn't means he was killed. Several characters can resemble themselves after getting blasted apart.
Doesn't means he can't be killed. That just means he has a good healing factor.
Cripes Abhi. Lol. He wasnt dead when Owen tore him apart and took him down to the molecular level,,,,three different times? He wasnt dead when Lindy shot his face off? He wasnt dead when Morgan Le Fey blew him up? He wasnt dead when he flew to the sun and the only remains of his body was a bare skeleton? Damn. What was he then?
Could you show us where he was stated to be dead and then resurrected himself?
Even Eternals have reconstituted from getting blasted to atoms.
Ok so we are ignoring what the actual character and writer tells us. Where do we go from here then?
No, just Sentry's words which are not backed by on panel sources.
He is an unreliable narrator.
Not arguing that
Yes you are. Until I showed you that Remender interview you said Sentry didn't die in the sun and was constantly regenerating.
They are one and the same, just different personalities pulling the vessel around. You didnt see the Void popping up when Bob won out and chose death did you?
Void was in charge when Thor killed him and as you said that is not possible, right?
Void didn't want to die, how did Thor kill him then?
Bob's conscious won out in the end as it always does.
Except no? He was always the coward and surrendered to Void.
It's meant to be a tragic story of a mentally ill Superman who succumbed to his dark side. Not win in the end.
I said if Bob and the Void were to agree and ride the same side and chose life, they would not have died.
But you said if only they both want to die Sentry could die. You're just a hodgepodge of arguments which you can't understand.
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm pretty sure LT would win Abhi, but we both know he plays on a different level. Who knows though. Nobody knows what the Sentry really is. Morgan erased him from existence and he popped right back. Again, its not a certainty.
How about TOAA? Or real life writers? Can they beat Sentry?
Originally posted by abhilegend
See this is how I know you are just a fanboy. You just can't admit Sentry loses to anyone. You're no better than realitywarper.How about TOAA? Or real life writers? Can they beat Sentry?
Originally posted by playa1258
RW Sentry v Comicvine Martian ManhunterWho wins?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
RWs Sentry vs Quanchis Thanos, mirror match. It would become an endless thread of faulty logic.
My opinion isn't mine.
I stick with what the writers and authors shows on panel and confirm.
You can continue your petty trolling. That's laughable at best 😆
Originally posted by abhilegend
A single scan which isn't gibberish from Sentry.Because it's not proof. Sentry's words are not proof until they are backed by on panel proof.
The character has a history of reappearing or regenerating from certain death and he also stated he cannot die but you continue to ignore the on panel evidence and facts, Its like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
So you think the character knew better than the writer who wrote the story and showed it on panel that Sentry was resurrected and not alive?
Again, your ignoring the context. Nobody is arguing that the twins brought the Sentry back (not sure why you continue to bring that up) or that he was dead. The fact that the Sentry explained what happened and you dont want to hear or believe it is on you.
Did it occur to you that Sentry is insane and not everything he says is true?Do you even know the character or just read his respect threads?
Lol, again, your believing what you want to believe and ignoring the characters history. What makes the siege storyline any different from all the other times the Sentry came back from certain death? I'll wait for your explanation because it should be entertaining.
But Bob said he felt the Apocalypse twins reach out to him which means by his account he wasn't dead. He didn't say that after Void left he was dead.
But your saying Thor killed him so he must be dead. Which is it? Was he dead or not? Was he dead all the other times he came back?
You still have to show a single scan which states this.
I showed you the scan of Sentry explaining his long battle with the Void who was trying to resurrect him from the atomic level but you dont believe anything the character says so whats the use anymore?
He was blasted apart but that doesn't means he was killed. Several characters can resemble themselves after getting blasted apart.
OMG. This is so over the top that I dont know how to respond. So now only certain ways of dying count? Lol. Does having your entire body burnt off your skeleton count? Does having your face blown off count? Does being erased from existence count? Your to much Abhi.
Doesn't means he can't be killed. That just means he has a good healing factor.
Lol. Show me once in the entire history of the character that states he has a healing factor. Your making things up to fit your narrative,,,,,,again.
Could you show us where he was stated to be dead and then resurrected himself?
Was it to hard for you to look at the on panel scans yourself? Oh I forgot, Siege was the only time Sentry was dead enough. Thor must have killed him deader than the other times. (oh my)
Even Eternals have reconstituted from getting blasted to atoms.
Were the Eternals considered dead when they were blasted down to atoms only succumbing to some automatic process that brought them back or were they still alive at the atomic level? Whats your take on that?
No, just Sentry's words which are not backed by on panel sources.He is an unreliable narrator.
Again with this. Sentry explains what we see on panel but its not good enough for Abhi.
Yes you are. Until I showed you that Remender interview you said Sentry didn't die in the sun and was constantly regenerating.
Now your trying to tell me what i'm arguing about and what i'm not. You brought the twins resurrecting Sentry up out of thin air. I think you want me to say that Bob resurrected himself in that instance or something, but i'm not. I never questioned that. I only explained why Bob was dead in the first place.
Void was in charge when Thor killed him and as you said that is not possible, right?Void didn't want to die, how did Thor kill him then?
I shouldnt have to keep repeating this but it obviously falls on deaf ears. The Void and Bob have a constant internal struggle. Its the bad versus the good. Although the Void was at the helm during Siege, Bob was fighting him along with everybody else. Bob gained enough control to allow his own death. What other explanation can there be? Why would this one time be any other different than all the other times the Sentry died? Why did this one time stick and the others didnt? Oh, the Sentry explained all this, but I forgot you dismiss everything he says.
Except no? He was always the coward and surrendered to Void.
He was heroic and did what needed to be done, be it causing the world to forget about him so he could hide himself away in a prison, fleeing from conflicts when he endangered people, and yes, even committing apparent suicide to rid the world of the Void. Its no wonder the hero community viewed him as the greatest.
It's meant to be a tragic story of a mentally ill Superman who succumbed to his dark side. Not win in the end.
If thats what you believe.
But you said if only they both want to die Sentry could die. You're just a hodgepodge of arguments which you can't understand.
Remember the on panel evidence of Sentry explaining the constant battle he had with Void even in death of how Void constantly wanted to reform them? All I said was that if Bob wouldnt have fought the Void,,,,poof,,,,he would be alive again.
Oh I once again forgot that you dismiss everything the character says and on panel proof. Thats your weak defense to your argument.
Originally posted by abhilegend
See this is how I know you are just a fanboy. You just can't admit Sentry loses to anyone. You're no better than realitywarper.How about TOAA? Or real life writers? Can they beat Sentry?
😆 Being called a fanboy by Abhi. Thats rich.
When did I say the Sentry couldnt lose to anybody? I readily admitted that the Sentry can lose forum type battles. My only argument is whether anybody can put him down for good.