Originally posted by Ursumeles
Caedus is somewhat comparable in dueling, but nothing else, really.
Jacen had more force knowledge than virtually anyone else in his era, perhaps except Luke. The only people actually more powerful in the force were Luke, and arguably Kyp.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How so? Caedus wasn't exactly all that close to Luke Skywalker, and Jaina even less so.
Sure Jacen was. They had a very competitive fight. Jaina would be slightly below Jacen, but both of them are very likely stronger than all the other masters in their era. The strike team that fought Caedus, led by Katarn, would kill either of these two ancient sith lords.
Yeah, from the lengthy explanations that ant has given me, Jaina was never all that close to Caedus, and when Luke had his shit together he casually pinned Caedus to a chair and Caedus was unable to break free. And to say that the Jedi strike team sent to defeat Caedus would even be able to defeat Droma is absolutely hilarious.
To put it simply, King Ommin was able to dominate the 3-4 million odd population of the city of Onderon using the dark side, overwhelm Arca Jerh, overwhelm a strike team of Jedi (sans Ulic) with dark side energy, etc, and Ommin's power was a fraction of the power possessed by Nadd's spirit. Kun oneshotted Nadd's spirit after fully embracing the dark side and what not, and Ulic Qel Droma proceeds to stalemate Exar Kun before growing far more powerful. Peak Ulic would absolutely defeat the strike team sent to kill Caedus. 👆
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, from the lengthy explanations that ant has given me,
I understand where your error is now.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Jaina was never all that close to Caedus, and when Luke had his shit together he casually pinned Caedus to a chair and Caedus was unable to break free. And to say that the Jedi strike team sent to defeat Caedus would even be able to defeat Droma is absolutely hilarious.
Why don't you go ahead and rank the jedi and sith in the FOTJ/LOTF era, since you dont think they are all that close. Luke pinned Jacen down when they first met after Mara was killed, right? That is impressive for Luke, but I doubt many people could have done anything against a furious Luke in that scenario.
1. Not sure what your issue is with Ant, tbh. His grasp on/understanding of LOTF content is as good as anyone's. Did he snap on you or something?
2. Rank them relative to whom? And it's not just the pinning, it's that Luke has also completely ****ed with Caedus by creating an illusory fleet, and rebuked Caedus' force attack so hard it shattered his collarbone. The only time I can recall Caedus doing well against Luke was in what was essentially a brawl. I still have yet to see why Caedus is above Kun, or Jaina is above Droma.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. Not sure what your issue is with Ant, tbh. His grasp on/understanding of LOTF content is as good as anyone's. Did he snap on you or something?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
2. Rank them relative to whom? And it's not just the pinning, it's that Luke has also completely ****ed with Caedus by creating an illusory fleet, and rebuked Caedus' force attack so hard it shattered his collarbone. The only time I can recall Caedus doing well against Luke was in what was essentially a brawl. I still have yet to see why Caedus is above Kun, or Jaina is above Droma.
Rank them relative to eachother is what I meant. Would you put Caedus in the top 5 of that era? Who would you place above Jaina but below Caedus in that era? Losing to Luke doesn't mean he isn't incredibly powerful/skilled.