Originally posted by Bashar Teg
which naturally means you have zero personal responsibility and are not culpable for any criminal/pedophelic behavior.
As I stated previously:
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
. . . "In wine, truth," or the English equivalent, "What soberness conceals, drunkenness reveals."
He single-handedly dispelled the "White Nationalists calling for an Islamic Holocaust and a white Europe are not Neo-Nazis" narrative his fellow Pole was desperately cucking.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEThere were women and children there, so it was not a Nazi rally. #NarrativeDestroyed
Your response to this is what:
Originally posted by Stigma
Absolutely Sbnowdragon is on point:BTW here is the actual response to the radicals by the organizers of the march
You google translatior if you need, but he says that at the gathering of 60K it was almost impossible to monitor everyne who enters that crowd.
He condemns that group of supremacist, saying that they behaved like thugs and, get this, this group consists of about 50 people. Yeah, 50 white supremacists at the gathering of 60K patriots. LOL
Yeah, that's right 50 people that disrupted the march. But hey, the headlines wouldn't sound that catchy.
Originally posted by Surtur
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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
All the Ways the Polish Government Tried to Spin a 60,000-Strong Far-Right Rally in Warsaw
How Poland Became a Breeding Ground for Europe’s Far-RightBERLIN—Few countries suffered as much under the Nazis as Poland did during World War II.
And yet, more than 70 years later, it has become a center on the continent for the far-right, and critics say the government isn’t doing anything about it. In fact, they say, the Polish far-right feels increasingly emboldened by what it perceives as governmental recognition.
On Saturday, an estimated 60,000 people marched alongside ultra-nationalists and Nazis to mark the 99th anniversary of Polish independence. Some of the protesters carried banners and held up signs that had a clear far-right extremist message, including “Clean Blood,” as seen by Politico and “White Europe,” described by Associated Press.
The origins of Poland’s “independence march” are fairly recent and date to 2009. The annual event has attracted an increasing number of supporters over the years and is now considered one of the world’s biggest far-right marches. It not only draws visitors from other Eastern European countries—where ultranationalist tendencies have become particularly pronounced since the 2015 refugee crisis—but also from Western Europe and the United States.
Saturday’s march was not organized or officially promoted by the governing right-wing Law and Justice party. Yet, despite the extremist slogans and posters, officials refrained from condemning the march for days, and even publicly voiced support: In a statement on Monday, Poland’s Foreign Ministry defended the march as a largely patriotic event and “a great celebration of Poles,” although the ministry condemned racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic remarks. The interior minister had previously called the rally “a beautiful sight.”
Even if he may have been unaware at the time of some of the posters held up at the rally, he probably must have known who was behind this annual protest. The organizers include anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim radical groups such as the All-Polish Youth and the National-Radical Camp.
Members of the All-Polish Youth movement have strong ties to the Law and Justice party. In 2006, the former chairman of the movement was named as Poland's vice prime minister.
On social media, critics of the government accused the ruling party of trying to silence people opposed to ultra-nationalism, pointing to the arrests of counter-protesters on Saturday and the possible prosecution of a journalist who read out some of the extremist slogans on live TV. Of the 45 people arrested Saturday, none were far-right extremists. Only anti-fascist demonstrators were detained.
“The apparent tolerance shown for these purveyors of hate—and, let’s be clear, that’s exactly what they are—by some Polish government officials is particularly troubling,” Agnieszka Markiewicz, director of the American Jewish Committee's Warsaw office said.
The government's stance fits into a broader pattern that has emerged in Poland over the past two years as it has abruptly shifted to the right. The country was still considered a post-communism success story and a “robust” democracy in 2015 when the Law and Justice party swept into power after taking a decidedly anti-immigration stance and glorifying the country’s history, while ignoring its darker aspects.
Once in office, the Law and Justice party moved swiftly to weaken the opposition and other democratic institutions, such as public television stations and the justice apparatus. More than 100 public TV employees resigned after the channel TVP Info was essentially turned into a government mouthpiece, and the country’s ranking in the Freedom of the Press Index subsequently dropped to “partly free” this year.
So the ruling party, which has direct ties to the ultra-nationalist organizers, and only detained anti-fascist counter-demonstrators, and jailed a journalist for accurately reporting what the ultra-nationalists displayed on their banners and were chanting in the streets, denies it is an ultra-nationalist march, or that Poland has an ultra-nationalist problem. Sounds legit.
I'm not gonna pretend to know what proportion of them were fascists (though I'm more inclined to believe Stigma than Adam here), however I'll take the time out of my day to condemn whatever white supremacist/white nationalist pricks were there. Racism and racial collectivism are vile twisted illiberal ideologies that are fundamentally corrupt and immoral wherever they pop up, and just as the illiberal intersectional progressives piss me off when trying to claim the moral high ground by claiming to use racially collectivist ideology and practices "fighting for the oppressed," the pseudo-intellectualism of the alt-right, white nationalists, or white supremacists piss me off when they try and claim the intellectual ground by pointing to IQ distributions and "white nations" as if the aggregate is somehow an excuse to judge the individual and as if skin color is actually something qualitatively relevant to one's character.
As a classical liberal and a legal egalitarian, racists and racial collectivists (who are basically racists who hide their racism behind ideological doctrine) piss me off at a fundamental point of principle, so I'll gladly condemn any white supremacists present at that rally.
That being said, given the EU's attempts to interfere in the sovereignty of Poland's governmental structure, and the EU's attempts to punish Poland for not taking in migrants (many of whom hold cultural values antithetical to western values) against the will of its populace after witnessing the negative impacts of the migrant crisis on the rest of Europe, I can certainly see how quite a few non-racist people who are genuinely patriotic could be motivated to some nationalist rally.
Originally posted by Adam_PoERival team are bitches, **** the police! haermm
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