Originally posted by -Pr-
My instinct was to go with Adam, but the more I thought about it, the more I found myself wondering HOW Adam would beat him, and I'm not so sure now.Adam is a high herald though, imo. At least, he was post-crisis.
Doesnt he job like a lot? I cant really remember any long fights with Nur
Apocalypse's plans get thwarted, he doesn't take many head up L's sans a plot device like coming out of hibernation too early (a la Stryfe in X-Cutioner Song, Dracula in Apocalypse vs Dracula, or Stryfe + Bishop in Messiah War) or magic spells a writer pulls out of their ass in order to create an arc where Celestials are getting cut down like jabronis (Jarnbjorn). At full power he's batting around .900 against most opponents/teams when he actually fights for himself. He's just the subject of memes around here because people don't like the character.
Originally posted by riv6672
You cant see how a high herald can beat Apoc?
To quote the thread starter, interesting.
Please don't twist my words.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Doesnt he job like a lot? I cant really remember any long fights with Nur
Jobbing is kind of covered in the vs rules unless the character is monumentally stupid, which Nur is not.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Apocalypse's plans get thwarted, he doesn't take many head up L's sans a plot device like coming out of hibernation too early (a la Stryfe in X-Cutioner Song, Dracula in Apocalypse vs Dracula, or Stryfe + Bishop in Messiah War) or magic spells a writer pulls out of their ass in order to create an arc where Celestials are getting cut down like jabronis (Jarnbjorn). At full power he's batting around .900 against most opponents/teams when he actually fights for himself. He's just the subject of memes around here because people don't like the character.
Yea but we dont really have anything to base his abilities on...i know his losses are plot driven but he hasnt had any straight up 1 v 1 battles to gauge from.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'd actually roll with Apocalypse. Physical attacks aren't really going to do anything to Apocalypse and Black Adam doesn't have a plot device axe which is enchanted specifically to slice through Celestial Armor like butter. Not to mention that Apocalypse also has a bunch of other powers besides just his physicality and can create forcefields, teleport, use telekinesis, lifeforce drain, etc. If we're not limiting this solely to a fist fight (and even if we were Black Adam isn't going to punch Apocalypse out) Apocalypse has the tools to win.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Apocalypse's plans get thwarted, he doesn't take many head up L's sans a plot device like coming out of hibernation too early (a la Stryfe in X-Cutioner Song, Dracula in Apocalypse vs Dracula, or Stryfe + Bishop in Messiah War) or magic spells a writer pulls out of their ass in order to create an arc where Celestials are getting cut down like jabronis (Jarnbjorn). At full power he's batting around .900 against most opponents/teams when he actually fights for himself. He's just the subject of memes around here because people don't like the character.