Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay, thanks.You would think a female Japanese scientist superhero would be ripe for the picking in today's comics, but apparently not.
Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not hip to be asian... they don't support the narrative that the system is inherently rigged against minorities because so many of them are successful.
Actually yeah, you're right. Oh well.
I guess I'll have to wait even longer for her, Reddy and Geo-Force to make their proper returns.
Originally posted by -Pr-
So... I either forgot, or never knew you were Asian. 😖If I forgot, don't take it personally. I forget tons of shit I don't mean to.
Originally posted by darthgoober
No worries, I honestly don't know that it's ever come up in all my time on KMC. But yeah, I'm part Chinese... that's why I'm smarter than all you white folks 😛
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Far as the thread goes, I am really wary of how people might try to use Kimiyo's outlier as some sort of proof of Arthur's superiority.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She basically suckerpunched him when he had no idea who she was.In a straight up fight he overpowered her straight up.
Controller does not lessens the power of his victim.
You sure make excuse for everything.
She manipulated the energy inside of a anti-matter particle force-field created by nega bands, which is very impressive. And she was actively trying to resist the Controller's influence, and wanted Legacy to win to set her free from the Controller.
Its called context, not excuses you should try applying it some time. And its common sense that characters do not fight as they normally due under mind control. Its definitely not a low showing like you were attempting to make it out to be.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've read it all. Blue Marvel increased her power temporarily. Her powers are the same as always.These kinds of power ups are always temporary. Otherwise Iron man would be skyfather level in how many times he has upgraded his suite.
This is just false. Show any proof at all where Blue Marvel's upgrade to Monica has gone away. She has kept it for over a year and still has it. Iron man is completely irrelevant, Monica's upgrade change her molecular structure and not some tech/armor that she wears.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Whoa, Big Bang? Way to go with hyperbole mate.Lifebringer doesn't has power of a big bang.
Here you go again attempting to misrepresent. I never said Galactus has the power of a big bang, I did say that Monica was able to channel the energy of a big bang by absorbing Blue Marvel and Capt Marvel's energy (along with BP's tech) "an almost inconceivable amount of raw energy."
Originally posted by abhilegend
Dr Light is a being of pure energy too.And if you did anymore mental gymnastics like Monica beating a psychic and Light being Mind wiped by Zatanna, you would break your back.
Give me one herald level fight with Monica. Just one.
Dr. Light both of them still have a vulnerable physical form, Monica doesn't have a physical form anymore. And beating a being of pure thought on the astral plane is a good feat. The only mental gymnastics going on in this thread is that shooting solar energy at a being that has turned into a huge electromagnetic storm wouldn't do anything but amp said being. Doesn't matter if is the Vega Sun or the largest star ever created, which just give Monica a bigger amp. lol
For your herald challenge easy enough, here's Monica one shotting Magneto. He didn't regain consciousness until the fight between the Xmen and Avengers were almost over. Not many character can get pass Magneto's shield and 1 shot ko him. And this is way before the Spectrum upgrade.
And regarding Binary vs Depowered Monica the following puts this issue to rest. Monica again states that she cannot turn into energy like she used too. And this is after Starblast #2 so during her fight with Binary she was still depowered. Another misrepresentation by you, and anyways Binary would destroy K Light.
Originally posted by SupermutantShe manipulated the energy inside of a anti-matter particle force-field created by nega bands, which is very impressive. And she was actively trying to resist the Controller's influence, and wanted Legacy to win to set her free from the Controller.
And she still got her ass handed to her by Legacy.
Its called context, not excuses you should try applying it some time. And its common sense that characters do not fight as they normally due under mind control. Its definitely not a low showing like you were attempting to make it out to be.
Its not a low showing, its just how she operates and what level she is.
Her being mindcontrolled doesn't means she was operating at less than full power.
This is just false. Show any proof at all where Blue Marvel's upgrade to Monica has gone away. She has kept it for over a year and still has it. Iron man is completely irrelevant, Monica's upgrade change her molecular structure and not some tech/armor that she wears.
Why would someone try to prove a negative? Onus is on you to prove it stayed.
The upgrades like those never stick. Just like Iron Man.
Here you go again attempting to misrepresent. I never said Galactus has the power of a big bang, I did say that Monica was able to channel the energy of a big bang by absorbing Blue Marvel and Capt Marvel's energy (along with BP's tech) "an almost inconceivable amount of raw energy."
That's not a big bang kiddo. Its just another way of describing energy blast.
Dr. Light both of them still have a vulnerable physical form, Monica doesn't have a physical form anymore. And beating a being of pure thought on the astral plane is a good feat. The only mental gymnastics going on in this thread is that shooting solar energy at a being that has turned into a huge electromagnetic storm wouldn't do anything but amp said being. Doesn't matter if is the Vega Sun or the largest star ever created, which just give Monica a bigger amp. lol
He wouldn't shoot solar blasts at Monica though. Just absorb all her power.
For your herald challenge easy enough, here's Monica one shotting Magneto. He didn't regain consciousness until the fight between the Xmen and Avengers were almost over. Not many character can get pass Magneto's shield and 1 shot ko him. And this is way before the Spectrum upgrade.
It was due to his shield being vulnerable to certain wavelengths of radiation. Nothing to do with raw power or beating a herald.
And regarding Binary vs Depowered Monica the following puts this issue to rest. Monica again states that she cannot turn into energy like she used too. And this is after Starblast #2 so during her fight with Binary she was still depowered. Another misrepresentation by you, and anyways Binary would destroy K Light.
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Your scans is not working.
Its not like when she was in energy form she got her ass handed to her by Legacy.
And Avengers Unplugged was AFTER Starblast where she could transform into energy form.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And she still got her ass handed to her by Legacy.Its not a low showing, its just how she operates and what level she is.
Her being mindcontrolled doesn't means she was operating at less than full power.
I don't know why you think a much weaker and mind controlled version of Monica losing to someone with nega-bands, that she had previously defeated with one attack is helping your case. Cause its not. Plus she wanted him to win, to help her break free of the Controller.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would someone try to prove a negative? Onus is on you to prove it stayed.The upgrades like those never stick. Just like Iron Man.
You are the one claiming that her upgrades were temporary and now gone. So are you admitting that you are just making things up hoping something sticks because that's what it sounds like. So you have no evidence to support your claim.lol Anyways I've already proven that she still has them, and its been over a year like the scan indicated.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not a big bang kiddo. Its just another way of describing energy blast.
You missed the point again. The point was to show that Spectrum can absorb an almost unlimited amount of energy easily.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He wouldn't shoot solar blasts at Monica though. Just absorb all her power.
I was clearly referring to K Light. Which is still funny considering that the whole sun thing is a non combat feat and means nothing against Monica but an amp.
Plus it was clearly a one time highest showing feat for her as she has never demonstrated that kind of power since.
Of course Dr Light would try to absorb her its the only chance he has. Too bad for him that Spectrum has absorbed far greater than him, and the only time that Monica as Spectrum was absorbed (took Ironman plus Scarlet Witch) she soon thereafter was able to free herself.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was due to his shield being vulnerable to certain wavelengths of radiation. Nothing to do with raw power or beating a herald.
Doesn't matter if it was raw power or not she 1-shotted Mag freaking Nee-toe. Talk about mental gymnastics to try and downplay a highly impressive feat. And it did take raw power as well even after bypassing his shield, she still had to put him down.
By the way since I accepted your challenge, who has K Light beaten at the herald level, one on one?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Your scans is not working.Its not like when she was in energy form she got her ass handed to her by Legacy.
And Avengers Unplugged was AFTER Starblast where she could transform into energy form.
My scan works fine, just like the other scans. And this scan even has a note that Monica didn't get her energy transforming powers back until Starblast #2. The fight with Binary took place in Starblast #1, you were the one who posted the link. And Binary just assume Monica had her powers back b/c she shot some routine energy blasts at her. Binary had no way of knowing for a fact the power level of Monica.
And again this fight means nothing, Monica who has turn into a freaking huge electro-magnetic storm that Hercules and Black Knight was in awe of. Had to wear a oxygen mask lol and couldn't even transform into her nigh invulnerable, intangible, light speed, and very versatile energy form. And this was Binary, who would destroy K Light and beat Arthur.
