Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He could go light form even before 52.
Where did I say he couldn't?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course she is.
Deadshot guns her down lol, but she is more powerful than a being of pure energy.
And you try to lowball with nega bands, mind control, and Binary, when the above happen to K Light. 😆
Originally posted by Supermutant
Where did I say he couldn't?Deadshot guns her down lol, but she is more powerful than a being of pure energy.
And you try to lowball with nega bands, mind control, and Binary, when the above happen to K Light. 😆
Spider-Man has bitchslapped Monica unconscious if we are playing that card. We are specifically talking about the powered up form of each character here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She was in human form.Spider-Man has bitchslapped Monica unconscious if we are playing that card. We are specifically talking about the powered up form of each character here.
K Light rarely used her energy form in fights. Both Black Adam and Supergirl have casually 1-shotted her.
And lol at even bringing up Spider-man, who Monica basically nonchalantly one-shotted with just an energy blast in her very first comic appearance. Also, she was trying to get help from the Avengers to control her powers so she wouldn't explode, and kill everyone in the city. And Spiderman even mentions that she was using her powers sparingly b/c you know she didn't want to kill everyone.
Context again has defeated you.
https://peerlesspower.blogspot.com/2014/05/enter-new-captain-marvel.html
So you tried to compare Monica in her first appearance where she is severely holding back so she wont kill everyone, to the very last time IIRC that K Light is seen in a comic. 😆
And then you state "if we are playing that card," which is beyond hilarious b/c you have been trying to lowball Monica from the beginning.
The bottom line is that K Light hasn't beaten anyone herald level or that even matters in an actual 1 on 1 fight. Her only real claim to fame is a non-combat feat that only matters for respect threads.
Spectrum can do everything she can plus more except Spectrum does it easier.
Originally posted by Supermutant
K Light rarely used her energy form in fights. Both Black Adam and Supergirl have casually 1-shotted her.
Irrelevant. We are not talking about her physical powers.
And lol at even bringing up Spider-man, who Monica basically nonchalantly one-shotted with just an energy blast in her very first comic appearance. Also, she was trying to get help from the Avengers to control her powers so she wouldn't explode, and kill everyone in the city. And Spiderman even mentions that she was using her powers sparingly b/c you know she didn't want to kill everyone.
Yes, because that somehow negates Spider-Man oneshotting her in her human form.
Context again has defeated you.
https://peerlesspower.blogspot.com/2014/05/enter-new-captain-marvel.html
So you tried to compare Monica in her first appearance where she is severely holding back so she wont kill everyone, to the very last time IIRC that K Light is seen in a comic. 😆
Way to go. Should I start posting how many times she has been beaten in her physical form? Even Vision defeated her recently.
And then you state "if we are playing that card," which is beyond hilarious b/c you have been trying to lowball Monica from the beginning.
The bottom line is that K Light hasn't beaten anyone herald level or that even matters in an actual 1 on 1 fight. Her only real claim to fame is a non-combat feat that only matters for respect threads.
Spectrum can do everything she can plus more except Spectrum does it easier.
You can always dream about that. And Kimiyo isn't here. It's Arthur Light in the thread who is much more powerful and skilled than Kimiyo.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Irrelevant. We are not talking about her physical powers.
lol Very relevant as you have repeatedly littered this thread with scans where Monica mostly only had physical powers. Plus again K. Light rarely used an energy form and has been defeated by being koed physically numerous times. K Light is way more likely to fight while keeping her physical form anyways, the outlier is her energy form.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, because that somehow negates Spider-Man oneshotting her in her human form.
lol But look above at your statement "we are not talking about her physical powers." Anyway, Monica casually one shotted Spider-man before she stopped using most of her brand new powers for fear of killing everyone in the city. A rookie Monica greatly holding back for fear of losing control, has no bearing on this match, just another desparate attempt to low ball.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Way to go. Should I start posting how many times she has been beaten in her physical form? Even Vision defeated her recently.
again lol Please go right ahead waste your time and post previous irrelevant physical confrontations of Monica. Current Spectrum has been a non physical being for years, she's not even human anymore.
And regarding Vision my context sense is tingling.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can always dream about that. And Kimiyo isn't here. It's Arthur Light in the thread who is much more powerful and skilled than Kimiyo.
The ironic thing is that it was you who first brought up K Light in this thread. You pushed this false narrative that K Light was more powerful than Spectrum, then some gullible others took that and ran with it about an one time non combat feat involving the Vega star. Now after I have clearly debunked all of your lowballing and misrepresentations, now that I have proven how K Light has not beaten any other heralds or anyone one worth mentioning, now that her normal/standard level of power have been proven to be no where close to the Vega Star feat, lol now you don't want to talk about K Light anymore. This is priceless.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He casually drained Kimiyo and The Ray who both have better feats than Spectrum in every way.
So if you didn't want to talk about K. Light maybe you shouldn't have brought her up. Still waiting on her feats that are way better than Spectrum, still waiting on one fight where K. Light beat someone on the level of Magneto.
Kimiyo DOES have a feat that's better than Monica.
She channels the power of Vega. All the time (not just once). It's literally the source of her power, IIRC. It's not a one time thing - it's like Animal Man and the Red, or Swamp Thing and the Green.
And it's objectively more power than the Sun, which is what has been shown from Monica.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Kimiyo DOES have a feat that's better than Monica.She channels the power of Vega. All the time (not just once). It's literally the source of her power, IIRC. It's not a one time thing - it's like Animal Man and the Red, or Swamp Thing and the Green.
And it's objectively more power than the Sun, which is what has been shown from Monica.
lol no Vega gave K Light her power to control energy just like energy from a dimensional black hole gave Monica her powers. I could just as easier claim that Monica powers came from a black hole. The whole point is though that it doesn't matter where the power come from, K Light has never shown no where close to that level of power again. She hasn't beaten one herald level character one on one. Not only that, she stop using her powers for over two years, and has retired a couple of times.
It simply a respect thread feat with zero showing in actual combat. Trying to make it into anything else is laughable.
And the main thing is that current Spectrum is at her highest level of power since the Blue Marvel upgraded while the last time we saw K Light she was getting shot by a bullet. lol I guess bullet >>>> Vega Super Star
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol no Vega gave K Light her power to control energy just like energy from a dimensional black hole gave Monica her powers. I could just as easier claim that Monica powers came from a black hole. The whole point is though that it doesn't matter where the power come from, K Light has never shown no where close to that level of power again. She hasn't beaten one herald level character one on one. Not only that, she stop using her powers for over two years, and has retired a couple of times.It simply a respect thread feat with zero showing in actual combat. Trying to make it into anything else is laughable.
And the main thing is that current Spectrum is at her highest level of power since the Blue Marvel upgraded while the last time we saw K Light she was getting shot by a bullet. lol I guess bullet >>>> Vega Super Star
All of this equates to:
Show me a feat where K Light is > Spectrum.
*Feat shown*
Oh I didn't mean that. That's a feat but I want more.
You asked for it. It was shown.
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol Very relevant as you have repeatedly littered this thread with scans where Monica mostly only had physical powers. Plus again K. Light rarely used an energy form and has been defeated by being koed physically numerous times. K Light is way more likely to fight while keeping her physical form anyways, the outlier is her energy form.
I've shown Spectrum losing in her light form. Not human form.
lol But look above at your statement "we are not talking about her physical powers." Anyway, Monica casually one shotted Spider-man before she stopped using most of her brand new powers for fear of killing everyone in the city. A rookie Monica greatly holding back for fear of losing control, has no bearing on this match, just another desparate attempt to low ball.
Yeah, beating spidey is such a herald level feat. And getting drained by Iron Man too in the same issue.
again lol Please go right ahead waste your time and post previous irrelevant physical confrontations of Monica. Current Spectrum has been a non physical being for years, she's not even human anymore.
I know. Hence why she will get manipulated by Arthur just like Energy Superman.
And regarding Vision my context sense is tingling.
Read Vision 11.
[b]The ironic thing is that it was you who first brought up K Light in this thread. You pushed this false narrative that K Light was more powerful than Spectrum, then some gullible others took that and ran with it about an one time non combat feat involving the Vega star. Now after I have clearly debunked all of your lowballing and misrepresentations, now that I have proven how K Light has not beaten any other heralds or anyone one worth mentioning, now that her normal/standard level of power have been proven to be no where close to the Vega Star feat, lol now you don't want to talk about K Light anymore. This is priceless.
I brought up Kimiyo because she has better feats than Spectrum.
So if you didn't want to talk about K. Light maybe you shouldn't have brought her up. Still waiting on her feats that are way better than Spectrum, still waiting on one fight where K. Light beat someone on the level of Magneto. [/B]
Ok? She oneshots Firestorm.
And siphoned enough power from Starbreaker that a bullet could kill him. He was stated to have more power than a thousand suns and an adult sun eater.
Is that suffice for you?
Originally posted by Zack M
Thats cute. Kimiyo absorbed energy from STARBREAKER.
sigh I don't why people tend to leave out major context with these things. Don't worry I'll provide the truth momentarily. Not only was GL John absorbing energy with his ring, but so was Firestorm, plus Icon and Vixen and Zatanna was also fighting Starbreaker.
And Starbreaker had already drained kimiyo and tossed her away before all the help arrived.
Oh yeah Hardware was also there and had upgraded Kimiyo gear with nanocollectors to help her absorb the energy.
lol the misrepresentations going on in this thread is crazy
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All of this equates to:Show me a feat where K Light is > Spectrum.
*Feat shown*
Oh I didn't mean that. That's a feat but I want more.
You asked for it. It was shown.
First even with that 1 Vega Star feat, the Antimonitor was already using that star to feed his power. We have no clue to how much of that Star, K Light actually absorbed.
Secondly, Monica even in her weaker days as Cap Marvel, Photon, Pulsar has turned completely into a huge electro--magnetic storm that left Hercules in awe, or heat energy, or even sun light as when she killed every vampire in New Orleans at light speed. How does absorbing a star makes her better than someone who has turned into a star? lol
Thirdly again its a non combat feat. K Light doesn't go around blasting her opponents with Vega Star power, she has not even beaten one herald level character one on one. Shadow Thief stabbed her in the back and koed her. The freaking Royal Jobber Gang made her flee from the light weapons they were using against her. lol She has never shown that level of power in her fights.
Fourthly I already posted a scan of Spectrum having the ability to absorb an almost infinite amount of energy as described by Black Panther. And even in her very first appearance she was able to absorb the energies of a black hole.
Finally this is another example of why Monica is more powerful and wins against her without great difficulty.
K Light while using her rare light form and her powers, plus while flying at lightspeed was instantly stopped and trapped by a cloud of ultracooled atoms.
Now HandofFate stole my thunder, but it worth reposting what Spectrum just did to the extremely durable Maker.
That's right she turned into absolute zero as Ultimate Stark puts it "the absence of molecular motion." So K Light has already been stopped cold by this type of attack pun intended and Spectrum has done it effortlessly.
At this point to continue with K Light is more powerful or would win against current Spectrum is just ridiculousness.
