Mcmaster has to use bullet points for idiot Trump

Originally posted by Robtard
Huh? Looked it up again, 15 Dem Presidents and 19 Republican presidents. So it's not like it's a sweep to the Right.

Last 100 years it's 8 Dems and 10 Reps, so again, not really a sweep. Should note that one of those ten was Nixon, who had to resign in complete and utter disgrace, not a good time for the Republicans, more like a black-eye on their record. Do wonder if we'll have a repeat of that with Trump.

Only a few presidential elections in our nations history. Massive state, local, federal elections every two years.

Originally posted by Surtur
Speaking of people at the NYT not drinking the kool aid, this is hilarious:

Tom Friedman Has a Stopped Clock Moment

The points he makes that will no doubt be ignored by leftist cucks:

[b]• We can’t take in every immigrant who wants to come here; we need, metaphorically speaking, a high wall that assures Americans we can control our border with a big gate that lets as many people in legally as we can effectively absorb as citizens.

• The Muslim world does have a problem with pluralism — gender pluralism, religious pluralism and intellectual pluralism — and suggesting that terrorism has nothing to do with that fact is naïve; countering violent extremism means constructively engaging with Muslim leaders on this issue.

• Americans want a president focused on growing the economic pie, not just redistributing it. We do have a trade problem with China, which has reformed and closed instead of reformed and opened. We have an even bigger problem with automation wiping out middle-skilled work and we need to generate more blue-collar jobs to anchor communities.

• Political correctness on college campuses has run ridiculously riot. Americans want leaders to be comfortable expressing patriotism and love of country when globalization is erasing national identities. America is not perfect, but it is, more often than not, a force for good in the world.

They especially won't like his 2nd point. Under no circumstance do they want to acknowledge the role Islam plays. They truly want to blame it on either: the USA, politics, or poverty. [/B]

We have to face facts. Most leftists lack the balls to acknowledge these points.

Personally, I think those are pretty reasonable points worthy of discussion.

Originally posted by Sable
Only a few presidential elections in our nations history. Massive state, local, federal elections every two years.

Hmmm. In the last 100 years Democrats have had more control of congress. So again, not so sure about the 'Dems can't win elections' claim.

Originally posted by BackFire
Personally, I think those are pretty reasonable points worthy of discussion.

If only more leftists thought this way 🙁

Well recently there is truth to it. Dems have lost many seats at the national/state/local level since Obama's election. Like over a thousand I think.

If they want to reverse that, they should look at why they are being abandoned by people who once supported them.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well recently there is truth to it. Dems have lost many seats at the national/state/local level since Obama's election. Like over a thousand I think.

If they want to reverse that, they should look at why they are being abandoned by people who once supported them.

Indeed, but they do not want to look. They want to clamp down. I can only guess because they think if they clamp down and somehow win it will prove they were right all along? I dunno.

I have not seen any evidence that Dems in power want to change things, have you?

Originally posted by BackFire
Well recently there is truth to it. Dems have lost many seats at the national/state/local level since Obama's election. Like over a thousand I think.

If they want to reverse that, they should look at why they are being abandoned by people who once supported them.

If Sable was just talking about the last few years, sure. I took it as a more encompassing statement. Fair enough though

Personally, I think it's going to flip sooner than later, especially with El Trumper as the figurehead of the Republican party.

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, but they do not want to look. They want to clamp down. I can only guess because they think if they clamp down and somehow win it will prove they were right all along? I dunno.

I have not seen any evidence that Dems in power want to change things, have you?

A bit.

The Better Deal thing has a lot of ideas in it that were put in there with the obvious intent to win back the white working class. But who knows how far they'll get with that or if it will work at all.

I think it's too early to tell, really. We won't know for sure until the mid terms next year, and we'll get a better sense of the actual strategy they utilize as campaign season nears over the next several months. If they end up just running as "Trump = bad, Me = ???" then I don't think they'll do very well. If they offer legitimate solutions and ideas, they have a good chance at taking back the house, or at least making big gains in it.

Originally posted by BackFire
A bit.

The Better Deal thing has a lot of ideas in it that were put in there with the obvious intent to win back the white working class. But who knows how far they'll get with that or if it will work at all.

I think it's too early to tell, really. We won't know for sure until the mid terms next year, and we'll get a better sense of the actual strategy they utilize as campaign season nears over the next several months. If they end up just running as "Trump = bad, Me = ???" then I don't think they'll do very well. If they offer legitimate solutions and ideas, they have a good chance at taking back the house, or at least making big gains in it.

I saw someone talking about how the better deal sounded quite familiar to a lot of the platforms Trump wanted. What would you say to that?

They said, as I recall, that the only thing missing is building a wall.

Some of it, like infrastructure, is similar, though the dems generally want to go about achieving it a bit differently.