Originally posted by Darth Thor
Kenobi's also stomped Opress who outmatched Ventress.It's clear Kenobi never went all out on Ventress.
A Ventress who assumedly hadn't fought another lightsaber wielding opponent for a long time, was deprived of one her blades, and who uses a form that has an inherent weakness against opponents who can generate great amounts of kinetic force behind their strikes...
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
A Ventress who assumedly hadn't fought another lightsaber wielding opponent for a long time, was deprived of one her blades, and who uses a form that has an inherent weakness against opponents who can generate great amounts of kinetic force behind their strikes...
So she might be Opress's equal under more favourable circumstances 👆
But Still no match for the guy whose a match for Peak Maul.
Originally posted by Darth Thorfunny, I recall Opress smacking Kenobi and Anakin around after taking nothing less than six blasts of Dooku's lightning + a force push from Ventress.
Kenobi's also stomped Opress who outmatched Ventress.It's clear Kenobi never went all out on Ventress.
Originally posted by Selenialnot saying that he should have dominated, but Ventress definitely is considered a threat to him. The same Ventress that has fought Anakin, Luminara, Ahsoka, and several others. The very same Ventress that still obviously doesn't hold a candle to Dooku even when he's been poisoned, she has help, she and her allies are invisible, or even when she has one of the more physical power houses in the canon.
A huge misconception. Kenobi as a defensive fighter never 'dominates' people in a fight, he rarely adopts the Ataru fighting style and often decides to whittle people down. A non-rage-amped Ventress has never held a candle to Kenobi.Kenobi should beat Vos. I'd say 4 or boss, tbh.
Not only that, but in ROTS (a time I think we can all agree Kenobi was in his prime), Dooku still took out Kenobi with ease. The only thing that changed now is that Dooku has Quinlan Vos (one of the most skilled of his time) to help him.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So she might be Opress's equal under more favourable circumstances 👆But Still no match for the guy whose a match for Peak Maul.
No, a Ventress who is armed with both her sabers against an opponent of Savage's abilities who she's not inherently disadvantaged against while at her peak is likely solidly above that level.
Considering Ventress traded blows with Maul for 10 seconds before landing a kick on him, despite possessing the same disadvantages against Maul that she had against Savage, I find your placement inaccurate.
something people should consider before siding against vos in power, dooku actually ragdolling vos did little to nothing to stop him, which would indicate being substantially or far more powerful wouldn't be sufficient here if you're an inferior duelist(remember dooku was implied to be superior but lost because of a stylistic disadvantage)
Originally posted by Kurk1. That definitely makes if funny that Savage with his "sloppy" technique was doing so well against Kenobi
Dooku said it himself, "You have no technique...sloppy"
2. He had no real experience at that time with a saber and Maul later began training him
3. He still out skilled a Jedi Master and his padawan when he didn't even have a saber.