The North Korea / United States War (2017) · General Discussion Forum

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

This is a conflict for which majority of American citizens [should be] on the same page and support POTUS.

DPRK is threatening to wipe American cities from existence and is testing longer range missiles over time. Not wise to ignore these developments.

China and Russia are not irresponsible with their strategic assets - same cannot be said for DPRK.

It is time to take action (or) it will be too late for potentially millions in the future. A single Unified Korea will ensure lasting peace in the region.

This isn't a matter of Democrats vs. Republicans. This is about survival of countless lives across the Pacific.

Dramatic Gecko Gypsy With Internet

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This isn't a matter of Democrats vs. Republicans. This is about survival of innocent people across the Pacific.

Unfortunately asking people with a low threshold for flexible and innovative thought will never stray from the comfort of 'me vs them'. You're correct that lives should be placed first. But the echoes of stupidity are usually more present than intelligent and decisive action.

Beniboybling Worst Member

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is a conflict for which majority of American citizens [should be] on the same page and support POTUS.
DPRK is threatening to wipe American cities from existence and is testing longer range missiles over time. Not wise to ignore these developments.
China and Russia are not irresponsible with their strategic assets - same cannot be said for DPRK.
It is time to take action (or) it will be too late for potentially millions in the future. A single Unified Korea will ensure lasting peace in the region.
This isn't a matter of Democrats vs. Republicans. This is about survival of countless lives across the Pacific.

I agree, in order to pacify North Korea Americans should support the POTUS in escalating tensions with his mean tweets and dumb threats no wait, wait a minute-

|King Joker| Your Excellency

Literally all Trump is doing is reinforcing North Korea's beliefs that they need nukes for deterrence whenever he threatens them.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Literally all Trump is doing is reinforcing North Korea's beliefs that they need nukes for deterrence whenever he threatens them.

North Korea figured this out long ago. They are not going to denuclearize to appease US. And they will continue to build the capability to strike at US - sanctions or not.

DPRK is the last leg of Cold War era politics.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I agree, in order to pacify North Korea Americans should support the POTUS in escalating tensions with his mean tweets and dumb threats no wait, wait a minute-

So POTUS should tolerate all kinds of threats issued to his country? Patriotism is a thing, my friend.

POTUS is responsible for the defense of his country. What kind of a leader is he if he does not respond to threats issued to his country?

North Korea is not just issuing verbal threats, it is testing longer range ballistic missiles to send a message. They have plans to target Guam.

Beniboybling Worst Member

Lol patriotism really? Trump & America are being humiliated by NK because of his dumb empty threats, how is that conductive to patriotism? 😂

And they aren't going to do shit to Guam lol. All they are doing is calling his bluff, if a war breaks out between the US & NK, it will be because America attacked first. 👆

Lestov16 CTU Field Agent

Remember when Trump was complementing Kim for his brutality?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12092353/Donald-Trump-praises-Kim-Jong-un-for-his-firm-hand-with-executed-uncle.html

“You’ve got to give him credit. How many young guys - he was like 26 or 25 when his father died - take over these tough generals, and all of a sudden... he goes in, he takes over, he’s the boss...It’s incredible. He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one. This guy doesn’t play games.”- Trump on Kim Jong Un, Jan. 2016

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol patriotism really? Trump & America are being humiliated by NK because of his dumb empty threats, how is that conductive to patriotism? 😂
And they aren't going to do shit to Guam lol. All they are doing is calling his bluff, if a war breaks out between the US & NK, it will be because America attacked first. 👆

So you consider responses from POTUS as 'dumb empty threats' to DPRK? The latter is testing missiles and issuing terrible warnings to US on a frequent basis and you expect POTUS to be calm about it? What kind of precedent will he be setting for his country? That US is a banana republic?

I see Trump's responses as patriotic counter-verbal threats to a series of missile tests and verbal threats from an increasingly hostile DPRK. Please keep in mind that Trump warned DPRK in a civilized manner to not test missiles before his latest warning, only to see the tests proceeding.

You are also assuming that Kim Jong-Un may not back-up his verbal threats with actual action (missile tests near Guam). You think he has been experimenting with fire-crackers all these years?

How many years have DPRK spent under sanctions? 50+ I suppose. And this was not enough to deter DPRK.

How much patience do you think DPRK has for the sanctions? Sooner or later, this patience will run out.

DPRK wants to have a conversation with US from the position of strength: Look Uncle Sam! We are a nuclear power now and we have the capability to wipe your cities from existence. What you need to do is end the sanctions and embrace this new reality.

Should US cede to that, what is next? Annexation of South Korea?

So tell me - what should POTUS do about this situation?

cdtm Restricted

Not go to war.

Bloodless coup, maybe? All the conspiracy theories about the invincible black services of the U.S., and they can't even sneak in and make one leader of a third rate dictatorship vanish and be replaced with someone better for U.S. interests?

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by cdtm
Not go to war.
Bloodless coup, maybe? All the conspiracy theories about the invincible black services of the U.S., and they can't even sneak in and make one leader of a third rate dictatorship vanish and be replaced with someone better for U.S. interests?

US did not start WW2 but had to partake in it due to actions of hostile states.

Sometimes, you have to swallow a bitter pill to [fix] issues that need [fixing].

I am surprised that some members here have no sense of patriotism and concern for defense of their homeland.

If somebody wants to kill you, you people will try to restrain him (or) engage in a dialogue with him?

Sin I AM Madame Mort

War mongering from people whove never seen war.

Beniboybling Worst Member

Or appear to have even a faint memory of America's foreign excursions in the last half century.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Or appear to have even a faint memory of America's foreign excursions in the last half century.

Well, it WAS founded by a lot of Brits/Europeans. We had bad parents. 😉

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol patriotism really? Trump & America are being humiliated by NK because of his dumb empty threats, how is that conductive to patriotism? 😂
And they aren't going to do shit to Guam lol. All they are doing is calling his bluff, if a war breaks out between the US & NK, it will be because America attacked first. 👆

^ Bingo

That's the problem with these rubes, NK is doing what it's been doing for a long time, waving its tiny little dick. Now they've finally found themselves with a US president whose ego is so fragile, they can make him do flips and these Trumpers can't stand it because they're looking like fools.

NK's going to test more missile as planned, Trump's going to make another threat he won't follow through, as he's already opened up with threatening death and destruction and America will be laughed at some more. Blew his load early and now he has nothing for the rest of the game.

edit: What's Trump's next move when NK test more missiles? He's already threatened destruction, so how does he up that aside from actually destroying NK? Anyone.

Beniboybling Worst Member

"What would be tougher than 'fire and fury'?"

"Well you'll see, you'll see."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/aug/10/trump-north-korea-fire-fury-not-tough-enough-video

😂

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"What would be tougher than 'fire and fury'?"
"Well you'll see, you'll see."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/aug/10/trump-north-korea-fire-fury-not-tough-enough-video
😂

Yep, blew his load early and now Trump has nothing to up the game except declaring war on NK, which he can't even do. What a debacle.

Afro Cheese Senior Member

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is a conflict for which majority of American citizens [should be] on the same page and support POTUS.
DPRK is threatening to wipe American cities from existence and is testing longer range missiles over time. Not wise to ignore these developments.
China and Russia are not irresponsible with their strategic assets - same cannot be said for DPRK.
It is time to take action (or) it will be too late for potentially millions in the future. A single Unified Korea will ensure lasting peace in the region.
This isn't a matter of Democrats vs. Republicans. This is about survival of countless lives across the Pacific.

You're correct. This is a sad state of affairs where the country is so divided that hatred trumps logic.

To the people saying his threats are stupid/empty/overthetop: you couldn't be more wrong. He is responding to the provocative actions of a rogue dictatorship with threats that we won't stand for it. This is standard procedure as far as US foreign policy goes. What on earth are you actually complaining about? He should threaten them less forcefully? You just need a way to be anti-trump on every single issue. You practically worship the guy as a god, only a malevolent god that must be opposed at every opportunity.

And to the pro-trump people on this board who think I'm backing them up: you seem just as dedicated to the teamsport version of modern politics as the leftists/ant-trump people are. You're just playing for a different team.

Surtur Restricted

Speaking of NK and missiles, surely this story about Obama being informed about the NK nuclear tech in 2013 is false.

Anyways, who was the person who gutted our missile defense system? Anyone remember the guys name?

Surtur Restricted

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is a conflict for which majority of American citizens [should be] on the same page and support POTUS.
DPRK is threatening to wipe American cities from existence and is testing longer range missiles over time. Not wise to ignore these developments.
China and Russia are not irresponsible with their strategic assets - same cannot be said for DPRK.
It is time to take action (or) it will be too late for potentially millions in the future. A single Unified Korea will ensure lasting peace in the region.
This isn't a matter of Democrats vs. Republicans. This is about survival of countless lives across the Pacific.

They *should* be on the same page with him, but they won't. I think we both know why: it is Trump. They will not bend. They are so butthurt over losing, they can't support him. Or at the very least they can't support him without taking a shot at him. Most left leaning people I've seen support Trump felt they had to take him down a peg first, lest their fellow leftists shun them.

It's getting old, they do not care about this country. They care about being right.

Beniboybling Worst Member

😆

Sometimes I'm not sure if you're serious.