Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Not if their legs are broken and they have brain damage so bad they'll be a vegetable the rest of their life.Would you support NAMBLA's right to organize in public and say they just enjoying raping children?
Yeah, I would.
Heard there's another scheduled for Boston in a week or two. Hopefully it gets canceled.
Suspect is captured and his name has been released. Sounds like he'll be up for second degree murder. Surely lots of attempted murder charges as well.
Really awful scene. Watched some of the videos and it's just sickening. With all the fist fights and scuffles that had been shown from throughout the day I expected a bit of that to be going on while the car drove through a crowd of people mixed with the antifas and the Neo Nazis, but that's not what happened. From what I could tell it definitely looked like it was targeted at the antifas who were marching peacefully, at least at that time.
It's straight up terrorism, no different than Islamic terrorism. This is right out of ISIS' playbook. Guy who did it should be treated no differently than a Muslim terrorist would be, he deserves nothing better. He was radicalized and filled with hate. At the very least he should never step foot outside of a prison for the rest of his life.
Okay, this is getting ridiculous: No. No, one side of this was not innocent while the other side guilty, both were. I am hearing more and more about large numbers of Antifa members showing up for this counter 'protest". Didn't these white nationalists have a similar rally the day before and there were no major incidents? There is zero excuse for the injuries and deaths. There is also no reason at all to ignore the violence of one side. These were not liberal hippies showing up with flowers in their hair.
So now people are whining at Trump first for not talking about this quick enough, then they whine about what he says because he blames both sides. Except...both sides should be blamed. Antifa members are no better than the neo nazis. In condemning both sides he condemned white supremacy and antifa and goons like them.
You see this is why David Duke(yeah, THAT David Duke) lashed out at Trump for his comments. Even he could see this was a rebuke of white supremacists, but you won't hear about that in the MSM. In fact I'm curious, how many here knew about the David Duke thing I just mentioned?
They complain he didn't specifically call out white supremacy. Okay so just to be clear, here is the math on this:
Not calling white supremacy white supremacy=bad
Not calling Radical Islamic terrorists Radical Islamists=not bad
Can a leftie explain this?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Twitter user Yes, You're Racist is identifying Alt-Right marchers:"If you recognize any of the Nazis marching in #Charlottesville, send me their names/profiles and I'll make them famous #GoodNightAltRight
Maybe next time these dipshits will remember to wear their hoods."
Indeed, they should be taking pointers from the Antifa pussies that are always tending to cover their faces, right?
Would you support antifa members who showed up also being identified? Just curious.(I have no problem with nazis being identified)
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, this is getting ridiculous: No. No, one side of this was not innocent while the other side guilty, both were. I am hearing more and more about large numbers of Antifa members showing up for this counter 'protest". Didn't these white nationalists have a similar rally the day before and there were no incidents? There is zero excuse for the injuries and deaths. There is also no reason at all to ignore the violence of one side. These were not liberal hippies showing up with flowers in their hair.So now people are whining at Trump first for not talking about this quick enough, then they whine about what he says because he blames both sides. Except...both sides should be blamed. Antifa members are no better than the neo nazis. In condemning both sides he condemned white supremacy and antifa and goons like them.
You see this is why David Duke(yeah, THAT David Duke) lashed out at Trump for his comments? But you won't hear about that in the MSM.
In this case, yes, one side is guilty of murder, one side is not. There were no antifa caused murders this day. There were Neo Nazi caused murders this day.
If we were only talking about some fist fights then you'd have a point, though it would still be flawed because Neo Nazis are an inherently evil point of view, antifas are not. You can be antifascist and not be mean or in favor of violence. Neo Nazis and the KKK can not say the same because of the history of the two groups. Nazis, and thus Neo Nazis, have a basis in genocide, KKK has a basis in lynchings. Their ideologies haven't changed from those days, the only thing that has is their grip on power and the way they present those ideas as a result of their lack of power. Some antifas obviously are bad, shitty, violent people, we've seen them engage in assault and violence in previous rallies (which I have heavily condemned in previous threads). But there is nothing inherently evil or violent about being against fascism, which is the technical definition of "antifa". However, there is inherent evil and violence in the mindset of every Neo Nazi and every member of the KKK. That is the difference between the two groups. And that is why one is much, much worse than the other, and why attempting to equate the two together is both dishonest and an exposure of your own lack of critical thinking abilities.
Originally posted by BackFire
In this case, yes, one side is guilty of murder, one side is not. There were no antifa caused murders this day. There were Neo Nazi caused murders this day.If we were only talking about some fist fights then you'd have a point, though it would still be flawed because Neo Nazis are an inherently evil point of view, antifas are not. You can be antifascist and not be mean or in favor of violence. Neo Nazis and the KKK can not say the same because of the history of the two groups. Nazis, and thus Neo Nazis, have a basis in genocide, KKK has a basis in lynchings. Their ideologies haven't changed from those days, the only thing that has is their grip on power and the way they present those ideas as a result of their lack of power. Some antifas obviously are bad, shitty, violent people, we've seen them engage in assault and violence in previous rallies (which I have heavily condemned in previous threads). But there is nothing inherently evil or violent about being against fascism, which is the technical definition of "antifa". However, there is inherent evil and violence in the mindset of every Neo Nazi and every member of the KKK. That is the difference between the two groups. And that is why one is much, much worse than the other, and why attempting to equate the two together is both dishonest and an exposure of your own lack of critical thinking abilities.
Lol, bullshit. The Antifa members are violent thugs. Condemning violence on both sides is not Trump saying they are equally bad.
But both sides deserved their violence to be condemned. Here is what we aren't going to do: paint the thugs as freedom fighters just because their violence didn't lead to murder.
Should he have ignored the big elephant in the room and not said anything at all? Should he have condemned both, but said "I condemn side A more than side B" ?