Originally posted by abhilegendI'm certain that you saw what the conversation actually pertains to. Comparing two separate books that aren't about battles isn't the same as saying that they have the same quality. Goddamn, can we go two seconds without arguing over what is and isn't better?
Are you comparing Ultimates to Sandman?ermm
Ewing is merely aping Grant Morrison but doesn't has the talent to properly do it.
Originally posted by deathslash
I'm certain that you saw what the conversation actually pertains to. Comparing two separate books that aren't about battles isn't the same as saying that they have the same quality. Goddamn, can we go two seconds without arguing over what is and isn't better?
No goddamit this is a battle board. Prepare thyself
Blue Marvel took on and defeated someone that stomped the Avengers (that had a powerful line up) but it isn't enough to prove he could beat Zod. That is crazy as hell to me. Then, I don't know what it is you are looking for Sin. Zod defeated Cyborg whom just got his body back and who's best showing is defeating Mongul. Mongul is great and all but it isn't enough. Then Cyborg admitted he underestimated Zod. Then we have Eradicator who is weakened due to losing all of the Kryptonian power he had in him before facing an amped Superman. Is this what impress you about Zod. Explain to me what makes you think he could beat Blue Marvel. Someone who has taken on and defeated beings with amazing fts.
Even though this is Shuma at a fraction of his power, he was able to take on the White tiger God and the Avengers and Blue Marvel did this...
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Originally posted by carver9
Blue Marvel took on and defeated someone that stomped the Avengers (that had a powerful line up) but it isn't enough to prove he could beat Zod. That is crazy as hell to me. Then, I don't know what it is you are looking for Sin. Zod defeated Cyborg whom just got his body back and who's best showing is defeating Mongul. Mongul is great and all but it isn't enough. Then Cyborg admitted he underestimated Zod. Then we have Eradicator who is weakened due to losing all of the Kryptonian power he had in him before facing an amped Superman. Is this what impress you about Zod. Explain to me what makes you think he could beat Blue Marvel. Someone who has taken on and defeated beings with amazing fts.
Im not impressed by Marvel. He comes off as weak amalgam of Surfer and Superman without the feats. Another pacifist, super smart shitty combatant with dope super powers. The only thing he has going for him is that hes black and that novelty has worn thin because beside his small litany of feats (hyperion is a scrub, his own arch-nemesis, sentry and his wildy bipolar power levels, oh a one shotting ult hulk) he aint done shit. This guy came out a decade ago , is supposed to be an African American superman expy and Carol phuckin Danvers is more impressive than him and that was before marvels SJW push. I wouldnt put Marvel over a competant Wonder Man let alone current Zod. Marvel (the comic book company not the character) does NOT know how to properly deal with Herald/Superman class characters. When youre a stable anti matter generator and Tcharlie is the toughest guy in the room there is a serious problem
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He did overpower him first before dispersing his atoms. Anti-man was amped beyond normal.
Because as noted by him he synced his powers together while the avengers delayed anti-man so he could do it. Also said he could do that as they were connected.
He could not repeat that here
The first sync attempt failed. He had the FF and a stacked avengers team aiding him there.
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Anti-man went super saiyan and blasted everyone away like they were feebs. He further amped himself in the process. His mistake was turning Adam's wife into a pizza.
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Adam went ham and proceeded to beat the shiet out of a massively amped Anti-man. He even forced him out of the planet before he started a second synch attempt which ultimately dispersed his atoms.
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Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not impressed by Marvel. He comes off as weak amalgam of Surfer and Superman without the feats. Another pacifist, super smart shitty combatant with dope super powers. The only thing he has going for him is that hes black and that novelty has worn thin because beside his small litany of feats (hyperion is a scrub, his own arch-nemesis, sentry and his wildy bipolar power levels, oh a one shotting ult hulk) he aint done shit. This guy came out a decade ago , is supposed to be an African American superman expy and Carol phuckin Danvers is more impressive than him and that was before marvels SJW push. I wouldnt put Marvel over a competant Wonder Man let alone current Zod. Marvel (the comic book company not the character) does NOT know how to properly deal with Herald/Superman class characters. When youre a stable anti matter generator and Tcharlie is the toughest guy in the room there is a serious problem
Ok...im lost for words on this post.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The first sync attempt failed. He had the FF and a stacked avengers team aiding him there.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--kUfOnBMfyg/VXwSz6EpXGI/AAAAAAAMU3c/p2dbNQBaA-8/s1600/p_5_20.jpg
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YxTj8TZTf_s/VXwS6xuEU9I/AAAAAAAMU4A/klTA4tSgnwc/s1600/p_5_24.jpgAnti-man went super saiyan and blasted everyone away like they were feebs. He further amped himself in the process. His mistake was turning Adam's wife into a pizza.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H-mll1VvZP8/VXwS-uawzFI/AAAAAAAMU4I/rY2KBW7d2AY/s1600/p_5_25.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AepodhNUgAM/VXwS_HPX0VI/AAAAAAAMU4M/3CqVZ_BmQoc/s1600/p_5_26.jpgAdam went ham and proceeded to beat the shiet out of a massively amped Anti-man. He even forced him out of the planet before he started a second synch attempt which ultimately dispersed his atoms.
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Failed? Based on what? As you know they said it was working. Also did you miss the point he needed the avengers to make the cyclotron. They were successful. But based on your theory he didn't actually need it at the end when he went bloodlust? The answer is no. Logical answer is th cyclotron and synch worked
The rest of the scans are irrelevant and besides the point
can't edit my post, but as BM said "The accident that gave us our powers links us because were both powered by almost inexhaustible antimatter energy. If I can sync with his energy and release a large enough positive plasma charge, I might be able to initiate a chain reaction causing him to implode. but I need your help to do it"
*Battles begins avengers create a particle accelerator (cyclotron) to exacerbate his molecular vibration frequency*
*BM begins synching*
Iron Man: Reed-it's working!
Reed: Brashear is synching with him--trying to disperse his energy"--
Now what did BM say earlier? he needed to synch and then hit him with a large enough plasma blast which is what reed was talking about when he said trying to disperse his energy. Cyclotron clearly was needed to help his synch and match his frequency. It worked, but he didn't release a large enough plasma blast to dissipate him until later. So summary, synch worked, past history made them connected, needed help to do it and not applicable here.
