Mayweather vs McGregor

Originally posted by NemeBro
Cain Velasquez's recorded punch is more powerful than any boxer's though.

It is dumb though. McGregor shouldn't have challenged one of the most technically competent boxers of all time in a pure boxing match lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, kinda odd. McGregor almost comes off looking better given he isn't a pro boxer.

Now, as an mma fan, Conor needs to get his ass back here and defend that belt. Dos Anjos, Ferguson, Barboza, Pettis, Khabib(assuming he doesn't die, move up a class dude), etc...

He's got murderer's row waiting on him back home. Can't fault him for making money, but patty cake with Floyd is over. Come get these spinning wheel kicks from Barboza please.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I didn't see the fight so I can't say this for sure, but that may have actually been intentional on his part. Boxers train for longer fights than MMA guys do so he may have decided to draw the fight out as a way to play it safe because he knew he had the endurance advantage. No sense in taking the risk of looking bad by losing against a non boxer trying to put him away early if you know endurance is one of your biggest advantages.

Intentional or not, taking 10 rounds to beat someone that is only using 5% of their skillset isn't very impressive to me.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Intentional or not, taking 10 rounds to beat someone that is only using 5% of their skillset isn't very impressive to me.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Better to win and look bad then lose trying to look good IMO

Yes, beating someone that is only 5% of their skillset is better than losing to someone that is only using 5% of their skillset. However, I'm never going to call it impressive.

You want to know what I consider impressive, lasting 10 rounds while only using 5% of your skillset.

Originally posted by Silent Master
My point was that I was expecting Mayweather to win in a couple rounds, at worst 3. the fact that it took 10 rounds surprised the hell out of me.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, beating someone that is only 5% of their skillset is better than losing to someone that is only using 5% of their skillset. However, I'm never going to call it impressive.

You want to know what I consider impressive, lasting 10 rounds while only using 5% of your skillset.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure it's impressive if you spin it that way, but honestly you or I could last 10 rds with him if he made the conscious descion to draw the fight out for 10 rds so we'd be totally exhausted before he truely pressed the attack.

Accurately describing what happened is hardly spin.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's probably due to your ignorance of boxing IMO. 👆

I have learned SM is one of the smarter more well versed people on this forum, he clearly has you on the ropes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Accurately describing what happened is hardly spin.

Originally posted by Sable
I have learned

Originally posted by darthgoober
Perhaps spin was the wrong word to use... well no it's the word I meant to use, but not in a way that attempted to discredit you. I just meant that saying he survived using only 5% of his skillset may be giving him more credit than he deserves since there's a fair chance that Mayweather wasn't actually trying to put him away early.

Why would Mayweather unnecessarily prolong the fight?

Floyd Mayweather is a defensive outboxer. It isn't that he prolonged the fight, but that this is how he fights. Early round knockouts aren't something he's ever really specialized in IIRC.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Don't lie to me boy, we both know that's impossible.

Clearly you are to stupid.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Floyd Mayweather is a defensive outboxer. It isn't that he prolonged the fight, but that this is how he fights. Early round knockouts aren't something he's ever really specialized in IIRC.

He lacks the power to, don't be coy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why would Mayweather unnecessarily prolong the fight?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because Mcgregor had the advantage in both reach and strength. Letting him tire himself out is good strategy. Just look at the way the fight went down. Mcgregor threw way more punches and Mayweather seemed to focus on shots to the body early on... he was playing the long game from the get go.

IOW, he was concerned that fighting more aggressively would end up with the guy who can only use 5% of his skill-set winning.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, he was concerned that fighting more aggressively would end up with the guy who can only use 5% of his skill-set winning.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It would certainly increase the possibility of him losing, there's no question about that. When your opponent is both stronger and has decent range advantage you're always at risk of losing. There's been plenty of instances in boxing where the match turned because of a lucky punch after all. And don't get me wrong, I'm no Mcgregor hater nor am I a Mayweather fan... hell I just my first fight involving the guys(the fight in question lol). I'm just saying that capitilizing on his supperior endurance is a tactically smart move and doesn't really take anything away from the guy.

The fact that he had to rely on his endurance advantage to win against someone only using 5% of their skill-set isn't very impressive, IMO.

Edit: I also hadn't seen either these guys fight before now.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fact that he had to rely on his endurance advantage to win against someone only using 5% of their skill-set isn't very impressive, IMO.

Edit: I also hadn't seen either these guys fight before now.

Also, I'm not saying that his win WAS particularly impressive. A boxer SHOULD win a boxing match vs a non boxer. I do however find it impressive that he was able to maintain that endurance and keep his wits despite a number of illegal hammer blows from Mcgregor.

Also, you seem to be really hung up on Mcgregor's inability to use his full skill set without accounting for the strength and reach advantage he had. Those are a pretty significant advantages to have in a boxing match.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why are you assuming he HAD to rely on his endurance advantage just because he chose to? Just because it was the path to victory that gave him the best odds doesn't mean that it was the only path available to him.

Since you object to the word had, I'll drop it and change my statement to, Mayweather chose that course of action because he didn't like his odds of beating someone who was only using 5% of the skill-set if he fought more aggressively.