Mayweather vs McGregor

Started by darthgoober7 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since you object to the word had, I'll drop it and change my statement to, Mayweather chose that course of action because he didn't like his odds of beating someone who was only using 5% of the skill-set if he fought more aggressively.

You still seem to be implying that choosing the smartest course available somehow reflects poorly on Mayweather.

And you still don't seem to be crediting Mcgregor with some pretty significant physical advantages he walked into the fight with. I mean honestly, who cares that he wasn't allowed to kick the other guy in the face or put him in an arm bar... it was a boxing match. I don't think anyone has pointed to the fight as proof that Mayweather would win in the Octagon or a street fight. He was allowed to use all the same techniques that Mayweather was and he even used a couple that neither were allowed to use.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You still seem to be implying that choosing the smartest course avaible somehow reflects poorly on Mayweather.

And you still don't seem to be crediting Mcgregor with some pretty significant physical advantages he walked into the fight with.

No, I am merely pointing out that I do not find taking 10 rounds to beat someone who is only using 5% of their skill-set impressive.

McGregor having some physical advantages has no bearing on the fact that he was restricted to using only 5% of his skills.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I am merely pointing out that I do not find taking 10 rounds to beat someone who is only using 5% of their skill-set impressive.

McGregor having some physical advantages has no bearing on the fact that he was restricted to using only 5% of his skills.


I never said it was particulaly impressive, just that it's not mark against him. No one's going to say that this fight proves that Mayweather is anymore impressive than his previous fights have demonstrated. Of course the boxer won the boxing match after all. I doubt anyone would give him all that much credit even if he did KO the guy inside of 3 rounds.

Very true, but then again him not being allowed to kick Mayweather has no bearing on the fact that he had those advantages and still lost. The fact that he thought he was a better pure boxer than he turned out to be is his fault, not Mayweather's.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I never said it was particulaly impressive, just that it's not mark against him. No one's going to say that this fight proves that Mayweather is anymore impressive than his previous fights have demonstrated. Of course the boxer won the boxing match after all. I doubt anyone would give him all that much credit even if he did KO the guy inside of 3 rounds.

Very true, but then again him not being allowed to kick Mayweather has no bearing on the fact that he had those advantages and still lost. The fact that he thought he was a better pure boxer than he turned out to be is his fault, not Mayweather's.

I'm not defending McGregor's idea that he was a better boxer so why even bring that up? I'm commenting solely on the impressiveness of the match and taking 10 rounds to beat someone using only 5% of their skill set isn't even slightly impressive.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not defending McGregor's idea that he was a better boxer so why even bring that up? I'm commenting solely on the impressiveness of the match and taking 10 rounds to beat someone using only 5% of their skill set isn't even slightly impressive.

Beating a non boxer in boxing is inherently unimpressive for a boxer. There's basically no way that fight could have went down that would have made an impressive win for Mayweather short of something like a 1 punch KO.

Originally posted by Sable
Clearly you are to stupid.
*too

Are you intentionally being a moron? I find it hard to believe someone could make themselves look so stupid without being an intentional parody.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not defending McGregor's idea that he was a better boxer so why even bring that up? I'm commenting solely on the impressiveness of the match and taking 10 rounds to beat someone using only 5% of their skill set isn't even slightly impressive.
How is a forty year old man rather easily beating a man eleven years younger in a battle of endurance not impressive?

You really don't know much about boxing friend.

It's also pretty disingenuous to refer to boxing as 5% of Conor's skillset when he is primarily a boxer in MMA.

I've already explained why I don't consider it impressive.

Originally posted by NemeBro
How is a forty year old man rather easily beating a man eleven years younger in a battle of endurance not impressive?

You really don't know much about boxing friend.

It's also pretty disingenuous to refer to boxing as 5% of Conor's skillset when he is primarily a boxer in MMA.

Yeah, most of his work is based on setting up his left hand through excellent boxing skills for MMA. He has a goodish takedown defence, however, once on the ground he is very vulnerable as Diaz showed, although Diaz has truly excellent Jui Jitsu and is good at boxing to his strengths which include a long reach for his weight and a stiff jab. Conor has good and flashy legs ala Tae Kwon Do, but he can't leg kick well and doesn't have the leg conditioning to do it, when he did it to Diaz he hurt himself as much as Diaz. His movement is unusual and seems to work although he bought into Ido Portal's Sensei rubbish a little too much at one point.

But like with any sport, we are armchair/amateur enthusiasts commenting on the differences in skills between highly trained pros way beyond our possible skill levels and conditioning. I once got in the ring sparring with an ex British welterweight champ in Nottingham, he was very kind and used it as a teaching experience for me, he could have hurt me anytime he wanted despite our size difference I was completely out of my depth sparring with him.

I've effortlessly defeated Fedor with a single jab actually, and my right hook is legally considered a weapon of mass destruction.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I've effortlessly defeated Fedor with a single jab actually, and my right hook is legally considered a weapon of mass destruction.
Haha, in that case you are more than qualified to comment, was that before or after performing the Di mak on Mike Tyson?

That's because you never wash your hands.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's because you never wash your hands.
It's funny because Neme doesn't wash his hands 🙂

"I Turned Him Into A Mexican Tonight": Hypersensitive Snowflakes Triggered By McGregor's Compliment After Loss To Mayweather

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Originally posted by Surtur
"I Turned Him Into A Mexican Tonight": Hypersensitive Snowflakes Triggered By McGregor's Compliment After Loss To Mayweather

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He could have picked a better descriptor, but yeah, he wasn't referring to the Mexican ethnicity. He meant a style of fighting popular with Mexican fighters. Similar to how "wrestleboxing" is popular with American MMA fighters, or kickboxing for the Dutch, etc. Different countries have "styles" that often form.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Yeah, most of his work is based on setting up his left hand through excellent boxing skills for MMA. He has a goodish takedown defence, however, once on the ground he is very vulnerable as Diaz showed, although Diaz has truly excellent Jui Jitsu and is good at boxing to his strengths which include a long reach for his weight and a stiff jab. Conor has good and flashy legs ala Tae Kwon Do, but he can't leg kick well and doesn't have the leg conditioning to do it, when he did it to Diaz he hurt himself as much as Diaz. His movement is unusual and seems to work although he bought into Ido Portal's Sensei rubbish a little too much at one point.

I agree. Conor got tired in the first match though. It's been one of Conor's biggest weak points in MMA, or now boxing I guess. He's super dangerous for anyone in the opening rounds, and slows down from there. His fighting style just isn't suited for long, drawn out matches.

And Nate is a legitimate triathlon competitor. He isn't getting tired like...ever.

Originally posted by NemeBro
*too

Are you intentionally being a moron? I find it hard to believe someone could make themselves look so stupid without being an intentional parody.

It far "to" easy "to" send you over the cliff with gramatical errors. Stay thirsty, swine.

So Mayweather had a minimum purse of 100mil and McGregor (aka The Great White Hype) had one of 30mil. I'm sure they both made more after all is said and done.

Just lucky it ended by ref ruling, which makes it controversial. So how long until May weather Vs McGregor II? I say 9-12 months

Mayweather got $200 million. McGregor got $100 milliion

Originally posted by StyleTime
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He could have picked a better descriptor, but yeah, he wasn't referring to the Mexican ethnicity. He meant a style of fighting popular with Mexican fighters. Similar to how "wrestleboxing" is popular with American MMA fighters, or kickboxing for the Dutch, etc. Different countries have "styles" that often form.

I agree. Conor got tired in the first match though. It's been one of Conor's biggest weak points in MMA, or now boxing I guess. He's super dangerous for anyone in the opening rounds, and slows down from there. His fighting style just isn't suited for long, drawn out matches.

And Nate is a legitimate triathlon competitor. He isn't getting tired like...ever.

Mcgregor tires because he is cutting weight to below his actual weight class in a way most people don't. Most people cut 12 pounds; he's cutting a lot more. He is a bigger man fighting naturally much smaller men than him, this wasn't true of course in the Diaz bouts, where in the first he was overweight for him and had not done enough Cardio and as you said in the second Diaz did what Diaz does best ran a marathon, which is why it was so close. Diaz is a very good boxer for MMA, he may not look stylish but he is actually very good.