Originally posted by cdtm
Still don't see why reborn Krayt is widely considered top tierl (At least Palpatine level), while Cade isn't. Considering Cade killed Krayt and all.
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First, you'd have to prove that Cade was legitimately more powerful and/or more skilled in killing him (I.e. Evidence from the fight itself) and then show me where Reborn Krayt is widely considered Palpatine level.
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Originally posted by cdtm
Still don't see why reborn Krayt is widely considered top tierl (At least Palpatine level), while Cade isn't. Considering Cade killed Krayt and all.
He killed him the same way padawan Obi-Wan sliced Maul in half. It was a PIS-induced cheapshot. In an actual fight -- that I hope you've read -- Cade got demolished.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
If they start far away, he might be able to remove one Maul from the equation.
He can remove one even if they start relatively close.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
The two other guys, however, will be on him. Given one TPM Maul is comfortably Krayt tier in terms of skill, two outright butcher him.
TPM Maul isn't Krayt tier in terms of skill, tbh. I'd honestly place Cade on par or above TPM Maul and Krayt's a noticeably better duelist than him.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
If he takes one with the Force he might win, but the Mauls can press the saber advantage and render Krayt's Force advantage useless due to lack of usage opportunity.
Pressing him in a saber contest isn't going to be enough to take away an oppertunity for him to use the Force. Krayt's been outnumbered plenty of times and has managed to chain in Force attacks casually.
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, TK is obviously haxx. Managing to find a weak spot in your defenses after a brief bladeclash is definitely haxx. 👆
And yea, landing your hand on someone isn't really "demolishing them". Had it not been for essence transfer, doing something like that could have well gotten Krayt's hand off.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I don't remember Krayt winning with TK, wanna post the scan? 😉
Throwing him about and holding him in place is clearly demolishing in TK, lol.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And yea, landing your hand on someone isn't really "demolishing them". Had it not been for essence transfer, doing something like that could have well gotten Krayt's hand off.
Not the point. The point being Krayt can swiftly and casually work his way through someone's defenses to fondle their chests, indicating considerable superiority.
Originally posted by MythLord
Throwing him about and holding him in place is clearly demolishing in TK, lol.
Originally posted by MythLord
Not the point. The point being Krayt can swiftly and casually work his way through someone's defenses to fondle their chests, indicating considerable superiority. [/B]
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And yet Cade proceeded, undeterred, to handle his lightning and then engage him in a duel. It's clear Cade couldn't beat him purely through the force
Yeah, Cade managed to bounce back and engage him in a fight. Doesn't mean jacksh!t when Krayt was obviously the superior Force user, by quite a margin.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
We don't really know how much time passed. And anyhow, being able to touch someone with your free hand doesn't really mean you're much better than them.
Not a lot, and once again it isn't a matter of touching them. It's a matter of managing to quickly break through someone's defenses to perform a complex Force ability and fondle their chest before they can properly counter. It's a showing of considerable skill.
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, Cade managed to bounce back and engage him in a fight. Doesn't mean jacksh!t when Krayt was obviously the superior Force user, by quite a margin.
Originally posted by MythLord
Not a lot, and once again it isn't a matter of touching them. It's a matter of managing to quickly break through someone's defenses to perform a complex Force ability and fondle their chest before they can properly counter. It's a showing of considerable skill. [/B]
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
It means Cade can avoid being taken out by Krayt plus force users with the force.
Managing to survive a single Force Push and being held in place doesn't mean he can avoid being taken out by Krayt+ level Force users; In fact it means Krayt+ level Force users would have a field day with him.
It's the same as Thanos tanking a few of Odin's hits; doesn't mean he's in any way comparable in power or capable of contending, just that he's tenacious and durable enough to keep going after a few leeway shots.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The complex force ability is what incapacitated him. All Krayt did by merit of his ability as a swordsmen is touch him
You're not getting what I'm saying. How he incapacitated him is irrelevant, the point is he broke through his defenses and got the chance to use said Force ability.