Whos Stronger?

Started by Sable3 pagesPoll

Who's the strongest?

Whos Stronger?

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Based on feats, Cap easily...

Should be Luke > Jones > Cap.

Based on feats it's Cap > Luke > Jones but Jones gets a definite upgrade in Defenders. Or Cage gets a downgrade. It's hard to differentiate.

Cagr has only one feat above cap and thats blocking a car with his bare hands

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Cagr has only one feat above cap and thats blocking a car with his bare hands

How about stopping a helicopter from taking off. And holding a car from falling off a bridge?

I personally think Luke edges Cap a bit. Feats like crushing a steel dumpster, stopping a speeding SUV, and casually shouldering and carrying a piece of concrete that can easily weigh more than a small car are pretty solid feats, just to name a few. Luke also does a lot of his feats fairly easily.

Jessica got her best strength feat to date in Defenders but, based on direct showings against each other, Luke > Jessica in strength. Even the actors themselves have stated in interviews that Luke is stronger than Jessica, which just supports what we have seen onscreen when they've had to match strength under serious circumstances.

They just didn't give Luke that much to do, physically, in Defenders. He smashed through a few walls and obstacles, lifted a few things, and bent a few things, but they put a lot more focus on Danny and Matt. It also doesn't help that Luke holds back all the time. It was mentioned in his own show, and brought up again in Defenders, during a conversation with Stick. Stick still told him that he could be far more formidable and dangerous if he cut loose, but Luke wasn't interested.

Either way, they are all in the same overall ballpark.

Cage is stronger than Jessica who is stronger than Cap. Cap can't do something like this.

Originally posted by Sable
How about stopping a helicopter from taking off. And holding a car from falling off a bridge?
you think cap could stop a truck dead in its tracks like that

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cage is stronger than Jessica who is stronger than Cap. Cap can't do something like this.

Push Jessica back? Bullshit of coarse he could.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
you think cap could stop a truck dead in its tracks like that
Yeah agreed. It would knock the shit out of him.

Jones also struggled to stop a vehicle if I remember correctly. It was slowed to a crawl and dragging her forward. Cap would have likely stopped it a bit easier.

I'd say Luke > Cap> Jones

Jones pushed a car into Elektra and Cage budged one as well with their fight with the Hand fingers.

Cap kicked a large military truck out of the way, and?

YouTube video

Also remember in Agents of Shield Gunn from Angel(I forget his name in the show) was doing that obstacle course and moving bulldozers and stuff and said he had not beaten Caps best time at those things.

Yeah, it was offscreen, but Dethlok asked Coulson if his time pushing a bulldozer was close to Cap's. Coulson said not even close.

Was actually another random SHIELD instructor. Not Coulson. And that feat is a ridiculous outlier that's completely inconsistent with his onscreen showings. If we use that feat then yes, Cap is stronger, but that feat is so out there compared to everything else that it throws off not just Cap's other feats, but feats for characters he's fought as well, and even the durability of certain inanimate objects.

No reason to assume he can't. Why would you think he can't. Pushing a tractor is different then fighting.

Originally posted by Sable
No reason to assume he can't. Why would you think he can't. Pushing a tractor is different then fighting.

It wasn't a tractor. It was a 40+ ton bulldozer (I researched the make and model online), with treads digging into the grass and creating more resistance as Mike was pushing it. None of Cap's actual onscreen feats suggest that he could replicate what Mike did in a notably shorter time frame.

Luke then Jessica then Cap

Note: These shows are highly inconsistent. Jessica has casually broken some shit that takes LARGE amounts of force to do. But in other scenes, she struggles with humans. If you translate the strength needed to casually break the shit she breaks then she would be able to kill a human with a smack.

The problem in fiction is that writers do not know how much force shit takes. That's why we get gross contradictions.

We should look at average showings, not highest ones.

Cap > Luke > Jessica