Originally posted by SableLarge military vehicle? It's a modified and beat up 2 door pickup truck with a small bed. Nowhere near a HMMWV. Plus, he only kicked it like 2 feet, and only one end moved. It's not like he sent the entire thing careening.
Cap kicked a large military truck out of the way, and?
Originally posted by h1a8
Luke then Jessica then CapNote: These shows are highly inconsistent. Jessica has casually broken some shit that takes LARGE amounts of force to do. But in other scenes, she struggles with humans. If you translate the strength needed to casually break the shit she breaks then she would be able to kill a human with a smack.
Laughable if anything its Luke>Cap>Jess
Originally posted by SableNo, I was using HMMWV as a point of reference. A HMMWV is a standard military vehicle. It's not even one of the larger military vehicles, and that pick up truck is nowhere near it.
I dont recall saying it was a HMMWV, but have no doubts he could kick one of those out of the way.
Originally posted by SableAgreed.
Laughable if anything its Luke>Cap>Jess
Would actually be interesting to compare the numbers between the helicopter curl and the elevator catch. Both were holding onto the object with one hand while gripping something else to anchor themselves with their free hand. And one of those construction elevators can be pretty damn heavy. Likely a few tons.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Would actually be interesting to compare the numbers between the helicopter curl and the elevator catch. Both were holding onto the object with one hand while gripping something else to anchor themselves with their free hand. And one of those construction elevators can be pretty damn heavy. Likely a few tons.
Copter curl, I hear is around 3k+ lbs single arm bicep curl.
Elevator lift is around the same, maybe a bit more weight to it (1.5k kilograms elevator plus Danny and Luke's weight). But JJ used both hands and simply supported the weight from what I can see (granted it is dark and I'm watching it from my tiny Ipad right now).
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Copter curl, I hear is around 3k+ lbs single arm bicep curl.Elevator lift is around the same, maybe a bit more weight to it (1.5k kilograms elevator plus Danny and Luke's weight). But JJ used both hands and simply supported the weight from what I can see (granted it is dark and I'm watching it from my tiny Ipad right now).
What I remember is the cable snapping and her jumping, the lift dropping a little bit, and then stopping. Then, when Danny and Luke look up, they see her standing on the one platform thing a bit higher, holding onto the railing with one hand, and holding the cable attached to the elevator with the other hand. Which is actually pretty beastly. She literally had only an instant to jump, land, get a grip to anchor herself, and catch the cable of the falling lift. They definitely beefed her up in Defenders.
Originally posted by Sable
Are we sure she wan't flying?
Would actually be pretty cool if she was, but no. Jessica seems to have the potential for flight, but she has no idea how to use it properly, so she ends up doing kind of Hulk-like super leaps (though obviously nowhere near as powerful as his leaps) because of it.
I just rewatched the scene. Her feet were on the rungs of the same support scaffolding thing she was holding onto with her one hand, her other hand holding onto the cable. It is hard to see because of the shit camera angle though. You can clearly see the one hand holding it, but the other one is out of shot. Could be both, but I can't verify. I would put that lift at over 1.5 tons though. That thing looks like it is solid metal, and it's not exactly small.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Would actually be pretty cool if she was, but no. Jessica seems to have the potential for flight, but she has no idea how to use it properly, so she ends up doing kind of Hulk-like super leaps (though obviously nowhere near as powerful as his leaps) because of it.I just rewatched the scene. Her feet were on the rungs of the same support scaffolding thing she was holding onto with her one hand, her other hand holding onto the cable. It is hard to see because of the shit camera angle though. You can clearly see the one hand holding it, but the other one is out of shot. Could be both, but I can't verify. I would put that lift at over 1.5 tons though. That thing looks like it is solid metal, and it's not exactly small.
Looking at the scene again. If you look closely her left hand is visibly holding the cable throughout the time she was holding it up. But if you wait and watch as she lets go, you can definitely see her right hand come up into the shot. So it really looks like 2 hands to me.
Again, it is dark af and has crappy camera angles, but it looks like 2 hands to me (I am not certain tho and can def be mistaken here).
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Looking at the scene again. If you look closely her left hand is visibly holding the cable throughout the time she was holding it up. But if you wait and watch as she lets go, you can definitely see her right hand come up into the shot. So it really looks like 2 hands to me.Again, it is dark af and has crappy camera angles, but it looks like 2 hands to me (I am not certain tho and can def be mistaken here).
Yeah, that's what I mean. In the first shot, based on her body position, it looks like she is hanging off that support with two feet and a hand, and her other hand holding the cable. Later, it kind of looks like she releases with both hands. But the thing that bugs me is that her position makes no sense if she is just anchored by her feet. They aren't really wrapped/hooked around anything, so it's an extremely flimsy base. If she grabbed the cable with both hands her strength wouldn't have mattered. She still doesn't weigh that much. She would have overbalanced and dropped, along with the lift. It's a really weird scene now that I look at it in more detail.
Unless she managed to hook her one arm around something before grabbing the cable. We only really see her hands when she releases. So, then it would explain her positioning and seeing both hands in the shot where she releases it.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, that's what I mean. In the first shot, based on her body position, it looks like she is hanging off that support with two feet and a hand, and her other hand holding the cable. Later, it kind of looks like she releases with both hands. But the thing that bugs me is that her position makes no sense if she is just anchored by her feet. They aren't really wrapped/hooked around anything, so it's an extremely flimsy base. If she grabbed the cable with both hands her strength wouldn't have mattered. She still doesn't weigh that much. She would have overbalanced and dropped, along with the lift. It's a really weird scene now that I look at it in more detail.Unless she managed to hook her one arm around something before grabbing the cable. We only really see her hands when she releases. So, then it would explain her positioning and seeing both hands in the shot where she releases it.
Physics really isn't too precise in fiction. Nor does it need to be. It looks like they were portaying her bracing against the ledge and keeping it up with both hands. The shot might not be clear but as soon as she lets go, we can clearly see her right hand come up, not down. If she had been grabbing onto something or had it hooked, it would have fallen to her side. I don't think they were too concerned about forum goers breaking down the "feat" for its accuracy.
The shot itself is misleading as her constant glancing over her shoulder makes it look like she's holding onto something but the part where she lets go seems to clearly prove otherwise.