World Breaker Hulk's biggest feat vs Orion's

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Kyle specifically says "the last time". He says that the last time Orion confronted the GK, a solar system was destroyed and that he saw the remains of the destroyed planets. The image shown of the confrontation would have to be the last time even if it is at another location. So since Kyle observes the destruction from this "last time", clearly it is not at a different location.

So you're saying that since he has not been shown using the Astroforce in the short time of Rebirth, that means that he never uses it?

The last time was the solar system being destroyed, Orion was somewhere else but he deduced that it was Orion's attack that destroyed it. There is nothing to contradict it.

He hasn't used astro force since new 52.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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The last time was the solar system being destroyed, Orion was somewhere else but he deduced that it was Orion's attack that destroyed it. There is nothing to contradict it.

He hasn't used astro force since new 52.

And the image shown of Orion confronting the GK is the last time.

It was the current battle. Hence when Orion exits from boom tube he was shown as blasted.

We have nothing proving Orion did anything. The only thing that exist is a statement from someone that wasn't there.

It's similar to this that everyone on KMC denied...

https://m.imgur.com/StoDp3l?r

Or Sentry facing Galactus. The list is long.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was the current battle. Hence when Orion exits from boom tube he was shown as blasted.

That's the previous issue. In the issue where Kyle makes his statement, there is no current battle going on when he makes that statement. He is referring to the last battle which is the one shown. Juntai states that Hal and Kyle arrive at the end of the solar system battle, just missing it. This shows how clear it is to everyone else. The solar system busting battle is the last battle Kyle mentions and the battle shown would have to be the last battle. So they are the same.

A solar system is big. Orion tubed from one part of it to where Kyle and Hal are.

Originally posted by carver9
We have nothing proving Orion did anything. The only thing that exist is a statement from someone that wasn't there.

It's similar to this that everyone on KMC denied...

https://m.imgur.com/StoDp3l?r

Or Sentry facing Galactus. The list is long.

And Kd G is specifically stating what he has seen with his own eyes. And yes, the list is long:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/117571/4213552-beatdown+by+champion+-+1.jpg

Not sure how you can say that's the same thing. We actually saw one panel a destroyed star system isn't the same as hyperbole. So it has far more merit.

Originally posted by carver9
We have nothing proving Orion did anything. The only thing that exist is a statement from someone that wasn't there.

It's similar to this that everyone on KMC denied...

https://m.imgur.com/StoDp3l?r

Or Sentry facing Galactus. The list is long.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's the previous issue. In the issue where Kyle makes his statement, there is no current battle going on when he makes that statement. He is referring to the last battle which is the one shown. Juntai states that Hal and Kyle arrive at the end of the solar system battle, just missing it. This shows how clear it is to everyone else. The solar system busting battle is the last battle Kyle mentions and the battle shown would have to be the last battle. So they are the same.

A solar system is big. Orion tubed from one part of it to where Kyle and Hal are.

You're just making shit up now.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
And Kd G is specifically stating what he has seen with his own eyes. And yes, the list is long:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/117571/4213552-beatdown+by+champion+-+1.jpg

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not sure how you can say that's the same thing. We actually saw one panel a destroyed star system isn't the same as hyperbole. So it has far more merit.

Do you hold the same view here that you expressed below?

Originally posted by -K-M-
So nothing else other then that panel? I have seen that before, but was wondering if there was ANY confirmation. We have no clue what happened then . To say for certain BM did it alone or even with ease or with no additional help is impossible to say. Do we even know he beat him?

100%. Star system got destroyed that's fact. Now the debate is if Orion or the golem did it. That is what we didn't see and that warrants debate

Your examples we saw nothing on panel to warrant any merit and is considered hyberbole. Not the same thing

Originally posted by abhilegend
These are claims with nothing to back them up.

Yeah. That was my point

Originally posted by -K-M-
100%. Star system got destroyed that's fact. Now the debate is if Orion or the golem did it. That is what we didn't see and that warrants debate

Your examples we saw nothing on panel to warrant any merit and is considered hyberbole. Not the same thing

And let's go further. Abhi insists that Orion causes the shockwaves solely with his punches. Do you agree that there is no bases for such a conclusion?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
And let's go further. Abhi insists that Orion causes the shockwaves solely with his punches. Do you agree that there is no bases for such a conclusion?

Based on what we saw I honestly can't say for certain if it physically was him or if Kyle meant your responsible as in the golem destroyed the system because of you. That's why off-panel feats are very difficult to judge. Could it been him? Maybe. But also maybe not

The writer had Kyle said it was him. Unless it's changed further there is nothing to contradict it and anybody doing so is doing it out of spite.

Like Hulkster always does.

Writer said it was him? As in an interview?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Writer said it was him? As in an interview?

He was trying to say that the writer wrote Kyle saying that it was Orion. But you explained the ambiguity of the dialogue earlier.

Ironically, Abhi makes the same ambiguity case with regard to Panther's fight with Black Dwarf.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Writer said it was him? As in an interview?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He was trying to say that the writer wrote Kyle saying that it was Orion. But you explained the ambiguity of the dialogue earlier.

Ironically, Abhi makes the same ambiguity case with regard to Panther's fight with Black Dwarf.

Your butthurt is noted.

Bump

Originally posted by TheHulkster
If that's the point, it's understandable that it was missed. Your title describes the feat as "Orion's", thus people are going to argue it based on what Orion does. You would have had to ask if this solar system destroying explosion greater than The Dark Dimension explosions in Hulk's book.

Is the feat greater no matter who does it? Hulk's feat comes from punch shockwaves. This recent one comes from energy projection. Energy projection almost always produces significantly greater collateral damage. So which one is more impressive is still up for grabs.

As for who performs the feat, it is clearly predominantly the god killer. GL blames Orion because it is the result of the confrontation. If I kick a bomb and cause it to explode, I would be said to have caused the explosion. But it wouldn't be a feat for me.

We see a panel of the confrontation and we see god Killer releasing energy. It's clear cut. Clearly Orion escapes the explosion by boom tubing away and later boom tubes back to that location after Hal arrives.

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