Emperor Joker vs Living Tribunal

Originally posted by Galan007
Ewing uses the terms omniverse and multiverse interchangeably, yes. Anyone who has actually read the source material knows this.

And yes, per Ewing LT IS an inner function of Eternity... This was explicitly depicted on panel, when LT's power/authority was neutered solely because Eternity was weakened/unstable... It was also explicitly stated in the scan I posted above.

...I know, I know... Marvel writers and published comics don't dictate shit!!! YOU are the final authority where canonicity is concerned, goddammit!!! durlaugh

Universe<multiverse<omniverse.

Omniverse is what multiverse is to a universe. They are not the same!

LT isnt a function of Eternity. LT stated that the new stage of the universe caused for the Cosmic Hierchy to be premature, reason why the LT couldnt judge anything.

Multiversal Eternity represents the physical aspect of the Multiverse, but this doesnt mean he represents the Multiverse as a whole.

Again, the Multiverse is the combination of Eternity, Death, Infinity, and Oblivion. The 4 cosmic beings make up Marvel's Multiverse.

LT stands in the middle of the 4, being the keeper of Cosmic balance, and therefore representing the 4 cosmic beings!

Isnt like Eternity is on top of the Cosmic Hierchy, and has more power than these other abstract beings. That would make no sense, since then there would be a Cosmic Inbalance

LT is still 2nd to TOAA and above Multiversal Eternity!

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ewing states that those inner functions "RESUME", which means that the inner functioning has always been. Yet, he also refers to LT as having been the most powerful being in all creation. Thus clearly, serving an inner function within Eternity does not negate LT being of a higher authority as well as higher power than Eternity. There is no retcon. LT has always served a specific function within the multiverse. That function was assigned to him by TOAA who even Starlin shows to be his creator.

Seriously, show me where it is stated that LT is now less powerful than Eternity. I have pointed out specifically where Ewing states the opposite. Ewing' dialogue>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>readers dubious assumptions and generous extrapolations.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ewing uses the terms omniverse and multiverse interchangeably, yes. Anyone who has actually read the source material knows this.

And yes, per Ewing LT IS an inner function of Eternity... This was explicitly depicted on panel, when LT's power/authority was neutered solely because Eternity was weakened/unstable... It was also explicitly stated in the scan I posted above.

...I know, I know... Marvel writers and published comics don't dictate shit!!! YOU are the final authority where canonicity is concerned, goddammit!!! durlaugh

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ewing states that those inner functions "RESUME", which means that the inner functioning has always been.

The stupidity I've seen from you two is staggering, tbh... And the fact that quanchi runs in here to 'thumbs up' every bit of idiotic gibberish you guys spew is equally hilarious. 👆

The most shocking thing in this thread is Galan not having quanchi on ignore.

Yeah, who doesn't has quan on ignore?

Originally posted by Galan007
...AFTER Eternity resumed HIS proper, uninhibited role. When Eternity was weakened/unstable, however, LT's power/authority suffered as a result.... That's why Order & Chaos were able to KILL HIM OUTRIGHT, ffs. This tells us that per Ewing, LT's power/authority is entirely dependent on Eternity.

The stupidity I've seen for you two is staggering, tbh. And the fact that quanchi runs in here to 'thumbs up' every bit of idiotic gibberish you guys spew is equally hilarious. 👆

Originally posted by Phil
The most shocking thing in this thread is Galan not having quanchi on ignore.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, who doesn't has quan on ignore?

Not sure what I was thinking before, but that problem is resolved now... Thanks for being bros. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
...AFTER Eternity resumed HIS proper, uninhibited role. When Eternity was weakened/unstable, however, LT's power/authority suffered as a result.... That's why Order & Chaos were able to KILL HIM OUTRIGHT, ffs. Per Ewing, ALL cosmic beings...including LT...are inner functions of Eternity, and as such, are entirely dependent on Eternity's power/stability in order to function properly. Simple. 🙂

The stupidity I've seen for you two is staggering, tbh... And the fact that quanchi runs in here to 'thumbs up' every bit of idiotic gibberish you guys spew is equally hilarious. 👆

The Tribunal wasnt able to intercede because the Cosmic Hierchy was being formed.

I believe you are misunderstanding the Comic.

The Tribunal wasnt able to intercede because the Cosmic Hierchy was being formed, which makes sense since the multiverse was just recovering from the destruction left by the Beyonders! Now since Multiversal Eternity represents the physical aspect/all life in the Multiverse then yes, he does affect LT in a was too!

However LT is still independent from Eternity, since he also has to advocate for Death, infinity and oblivion.

That means LT is still above Multiversal Eternity.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, who doesn't has quan on ignore?

Is he still around?

Unfortunately. He should be in to 'thumbs up' Josh's idiotic post any minute. 👆

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Originally posted by Galan007
Unfortunately. He should be in to 'thumbs up' Josh's idiotic post any minute. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
And the fact that quanchi runs in here to 'thumbs up' every bit of idiotic gibberish you guys spew is equally hilarious. 👆

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it might also be the single most damning confirmation of their stance. but then again, some of the "logic" i see being quoted by others is pretty damning too. mmm

Originally posted by leonidas
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it might also be the single most damning confirmation of their stance. but then again, some of the "logic" i see being quoted by others is pretty damning too. mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
Unfortunately. He should be in to 'thumbs up' Josh's idiotic post any minute. 👆

That idiotic post has evidence, which non of you ASSES can reject.

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Joker doesn't need Mxy's powers to win. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
...AFTER Eternity resumed HIS proper, uninhibited role. When Eternity was weakened/unstable, however, LT's power/authority suffered as a result.... That's why Order & Chaos were able to KILL HIM OUTRIGHT, ffs. Per Ewing, ALL cosmic beings in the hierarchy...including LT...are inner functions of Eternity, and as such, are entirely dependent on Eternity's power/stability in order to function properly. Simple. 🙂

The stupidity I've seen from you two is staggering, tbh... And the fact that quanchi runs in here to 'thumbs up' every bit of idiotic gibberish you guys spew is equally hilarious. 👆

Not sure how anything you stated above addresses anything that I have said. I'm not disputing what Ewing shows with regard what happens when Eternity is weakened/unstable. You see, your beloved Abhi is implying (actually flat out stating) that LT being an "inner function", etc. means that LT is below Eternity on the power chart even when both are at their best. I showed where the dialogue shows differently and you jump in on the a** end of it crying like a little girl.

And you stated that Hickman and Ewing each depict LT as a single universe being and then later try to fix it up with some nonsensical malarkey. Put on your big boy pull-ups and admit that you were wrong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, who doesn't has quan on ignore?

I don't has him on ignore.

I only have PR and badabing on ignore