Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not by Thomas.http://www.comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=37290
It was written by Peter Sanderson who writes the handbooks and is little more than a handbook entry.
That's actually worse coming from a man who was officially employed as Marvel's character historian and the writer of Marvel Saga, which is canon. Thomas wrote the main story in that book.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆 The most recent info = the most canon... That's just how comics work.
I guess we default to the most recent interpretation, I guess.I mean,Siegel had the definitive Superman, and many other writers also put their stamp on Supes...but we have to use the latest retcon or feats or whatever.
If canonicity worked the way these 'tards are describing, then there would be no point in things like character-retcons, or even large-scale events. COIE, for example? Yeah, that shit doesn't matter cuz it was only one writer's opinion, and he doesn't dictate canon!!! Beyonder's retcon in F4 #319? Equally as irrelevant, cuz only one writer. Etc. 😂
The forums are hitting lows I never thought I'd see... Pretty pathetic, tbh. ermm
And for the record: Starlin, Hickman, AND Ewing all define LT as a universal force these days... And they have all written LT most recently. So until we are given evidence to the contrary, that IS the incontrovertible truth/canon for LT, period.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's actually worse coming from a man who was officially employed as Marvel's character historian and the writer of Marvel Saga, which is canon. Thomas wrote the main story in that book.
He just made shit up like that.
Originally posted by Galan007
And for the record: Starlin, Hickman, AND Ewing all define LT as a universal force these days... And they have all written LT most recently. So until we are given evidence to the contrary, that IS the incontrovertible truth/canon for LT, period.
For the record you need to go read a ton of comics my friend! You LACK of knowledge is ASTONISHING!
The Living Tribunal is MULTIVERSAL! A LOT of comics have depicted him so!!
LT powers are at a Multiversal scale!! He can seal universes, destroy entire realities, be everywhere at the same time! Would that fall under universal scale!?
For instance, is eternity Omnipresent!? Can Mistress Death destroy entire universes!? Can Infinity seal realities!? Can Master Order or Lord Chaos create pocked dimensions!? NO! Cause their powers dont overextend universal scale!
Again your Lack of Knowledge on the topic has been noted!
LT is multiversal because the Comics have proven so! Period.
Originally posted by TheHulksterOmniverse=multiverse, but yes, LT's assigned cosmological function/purpose is to act as the top authority under TOAA -- which I don't think anyone is arguing.
This is true. Its not just black and white and involves a certain degree of common sense.
However, this doesn't change the fact that per current continuity/canon: there is a different LT within each and every universe of the multiverse -- as is the case with EVERY cosmic being in the hierarchy. Furthermore, Ewing explicitly has LT acting as one of ETERNITY'S inner functions:
https://i.imgur.com/RVLPtYZ.jpg
Additionally, Ewing also went out of his way to show us that if ETERNITY is out of whack, ALL cosmic beings are out of whack... Including LT(I can post the scans of Chaos & Order killing him outright, if you'd like..?) IOW, ALL cosmic beings...including LT...are completely dependent on ETERNITY in order to function properly.
tl;dr
If you want to use Ewing's most recent portrayal of Marvel cosmology(which is completely acceptable, mind you), then Eternity > LT. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
Omniverse=multiverse, but yes, LT's assigned cosmological function/purpose is to act as the top authority under TOAA -- which I don't think anyone is arguing.However, this doesn't change the fact that per current continuity/canon: there is a different LT within each and every universe of the multiverse -- as is the case with EVERY cosmic being in the hierarchy. Furthermore, Ewing explicitly has LT acting as one of ETERNITY'S inner functions:
https://i.imgur.com/RVLPtYZ.jpgAdditionally, Ewing also went out of his way to show us that if ETERNITY is out of whack, ALL cosmic beings are out of whack... Including LT(I can post the scans of Chaos & Order killing him outright, if you'd like..?) IOW, ALL cosmic beings...including LT...are completely dependent on ETERNITY in order to function properly.
tl;dr
If you want to use Ewing's most recent portrayal of Marvel cosmology(which is completely acceptable, mind you), then Eternity > LT. 🙂
Omniverse=Multiverse!!!!!? Lol who told you that?
LT is omnipresent which means YES he is in every universe, but this doesnt mean it us universal. And no, LT is not an inner function of eternity!
Eternity represents the reality of the Multiverse, however it ISNT LITERALLY the MULTIVERSE! The Multiverse combines the Abstract! Which the LT represent them ALL.
LT Represents the COSMIC BALANCE not ETERNITY. That means that LT represents Mistress Death, Infinity, and Oblivion too.
And LT is STILL above any of these beings.
Ewing uses the terms omniverse and multiverse interchangeably, yes. Anyone who has actually read the source material knows this.
And yes, per Ewing LT IS an inner function of Eternity... This was explicitly depicted on panel, when LT's power/authority was neutered solely because Eternity was weakened/unstable... It was also explicitly stated in the scan I posted above.
...I know, I know... Marvel writers and published comics don't dictate shit!!! YOU are the final authority where canonicity is concerned, goddammit!!! durlaugh
Ewing states that those inner functions "RESUME", which means that the inner functioning has always been. Yet, he also refers to LT as having been the most powerful being in all creation. Thus clearly, serving an inner function within Eternity does not negate LT being of a higher authority as well as higher power than Eternity. There is no retcon. LT has always served a specific function within the multiverse. That function was assigned to him by TOAA who even Starlin shows to be his creator.
Seriously, show me where it is stated that LT is now less powerful than Eternity. I have pointed out specifically where Ewing states the opposite. Ewing' dialogue>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>readers dubious assumptions and generous extrapolations.
