Malak > Kun Quote - Confirmed (Death of Beni?)

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Malak > Kun Quote - Confirmed (Death of Beni?)

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Credit to DarthSkywalker0 for the exchange.

Anywho, he does confirm it is Legends.

Curiously, he also notes he no longer considers Malak above Kun, but I question the relevance of his opinion once the blog was posted since he has no continued relation with the characters.

Regardless, as someone who doesn't take quotes as absolute, I take this as proof that Malak wouldn't be stomped by Kun by any means, and could perhaps contend with him in battle.

I take back my previous comments on this narrative.

Yup. Malak > Kun is official.

Revan is raised immensely.

Huh. Guess that confirms for me that nexuses have a multiplicative effect. Revan really is around Vitiate's level without external circumstances. I'd also say that's heavy indication that SoR Revan's spirit being split did in fact weaken him.

Alright, GG. Revan is Galen level now. Good for him.

Re: Malak > Kun Quote - Confirmed (Death of Beni?)

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Curiously, he also notes he no longer considers Malak above Kun, but I question the relevance of his opinion once the blog was posted since he has no continued relation with the characters.

Que? He literally says he'd still side with Malak.

Re: Re: Malak > Kun Quote - Confirmed (Death of Beni?)

Originally posted by Selenial
Que? He literally says he'd still side with Malak.

Somehow I read him say, "I'd side with Kun."

LMFAO.

Damn, this is even better. 👆

The title is implying Beni was still alive.
0/10 thread

LMAO at raising Malak when we really should just lower Kun. His wank was unreal.

"At the time."

Welp, I was in the process of preparing a response but it looks like the author's made my life easier. Guess you can keep your dollars DC. 🙁

Now here is the article in question "at the time":

http://web.archive.org/web/20090603071915/https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20031009malak

Here is the official campaign guide entry released 5 years later:

https://i.imgur.com/Z30uH1d.png

https://i.imgur.com/KCi5U92.png

Note, no mention of his superiority over Nadd & Exar, and instead of possessing powers "out of proportion" his stats are not only beneath Kun's but almost the lowest of the bunch. 😂

I guess that's what you'd call a retcon. :'(

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
LMAO at raising Malak when we really should just lower Kun. His wank was unreal.

So taking into account Tom Veitch's statements that makes Revan>Malak>Kun>DE Sidious.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"At the time."

Welp, I was in the process of preparing a response but it looks like the author's made my life easier. Guess you can keep your dollars DC. 🙁

Now here is the article in question "at the time":

http://web.archive.org/web/20090603071915/https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20031009malak

Here is the official campaign guide entry released 5 years later:

https://i.imgur.com/Z30uH1d.png

https://i.imgur.com/KCi5U92.png

Note, no mention of his superiority over Nadd & Exar, and instead of possessing powers "out of proportion" his stats are not only beneath Kun's but almost the lowest of the bunch. 😂

I guess that's what you'd call a retcon. :'(

Cory's comment about "at the time" means that it was official canon (i.e. part of the classic Expanded Universe) back then, but is now classified as Legends due to Disney's purge, as he clarifies in his following sentence.

The other quotes you brought up here do not contradict the notion of Malak > Kun. Omission is not a contradiction. There is no retcon.

Originally posted by Unbowed
So taking into account Tom Veitch's statements that makes Revan>Malak>Kun>DE Sidious.

Well, yes, but no reason to take those into account.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
LMAO at raising Malak when we really should just lower Kun. His wank was unreal.

Kun > Post Nathema Vitiate. :>

@Az, the article predates KOTORCG anyway so that's irrelevant, which drastically revised his standing in the game to reflect is (lack of) "disproportionate" powers - a retcon yeah. Malak sucks. 🙁

Jesus, Beni taking so many L's he's falling back on campaign guide stats.

This is kinda sad to watch 😬

It's perfect.

Originally posted by Selenial
falling back on campaign guide stats.

Far be it for me to take up for Beni of all people, but didn't Leland Chee state RPG stats are based on facts, and that Star Wars authors look to them for knowledge on characters?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
@Az, the article predates KOTORCG anyway so that's irrelevant, which drastically revised his standing in the game to reflect is (lack of) "disproportionate" powers - a retcon yeah. Malak sucks. 🙁

Nope. KotORCG stats is based on the 2007's Saga Edition. This is based on the 2000's version.

Your argument believes the following sources are non-canon by virtue of retcon:

- Tales of the Jedi Companion
- Dark Empire Sourcebook
- The Dark Side Sourcebook
- The New Jedi Order Sourcebook
- Power of the Jedi Sourcebook

Since they are sourcebooks that have stats that don't remotely reflect those posted in the Saga Edition.

So, in short, the fact stats change doesn't mean the character descriptions are void, nor does it mean the earlier stats are null.