2017 Hurricane Season thread (Updated)

Afro: take comfort in knowing you triggered Bash across multiple threads.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
both sides really, amirite?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
im not saying im helping but im totally helping *uses cherry picked twitter trolls to generalize people* *cries about e-cliques*

get over yourself.

Originally posted by Surtur
Afro: take comfort in knowing you triggered Bash across multiple threads.

TIL: It's only okay to blame natural disasters on homosexuals and transgender people

Yes. Much better to blame it on made up science and political hysteria.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
So I inspired him to keep doing the same old same old? I take no comfort in that.

Touche.

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: It's only okay to blame natural disasters on homosexuals and transgender people

More like it's not okay to blame it on anything other than what actually caused the hurricane. No, it wasn't because of gay people or transgender people. No, it wasn't karma because some people don't believe in climate change.

@ Robtard Who said that was ok? It's stupid when anyone politicizes any natural disaster, and it's downright disgusting when people say that so and so deserves it because of their politics/race/orientation/etc.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yes. Much better to blame it on made up science and political hysteria. [/B]

Originally posted by Surtur
Bill Nye blames powerful hurricanes on climate change — then a real scientist shuts him down

Dude, get that shit out of here. Why muddy the waters any more than they already are?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
It doesn't seem like hurricanes are getting worse to you?

What do you think about this article?

Bill Nye blames powerful hurricanes on climate change — then a real scientist shuts him down

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
It doesn't seem like hurricanes are getting worse to you?

No. That part falls under the "Political Hysteria" part.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Dude, get that shit out of here. Why muddy the waters any more than they already are?

Lol...I didn't see this post when I just posted.

IMO it is valid to discuss.

Originally posted by Surtur
What do you think about this article?

And you had to post it again. It's an inane blurb attempting confuse people further on the issue.

Afro, you're fighting a losing battle. Taking a mixed/more centrist stance here doesn't work, because tribe mentality has set in too strong (as you've said, it's incredibly prevalent in real life, too). You're either a Nazi or a Libtard, apparently. Any attempts at pointing out hypocrisy on both sides will only elicit both of those previous insults at once, or (seen above) attempts to poke holes in your character due to you being 'arrogant' or 'sanctimonious'.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
And you had to post it again. It's an inane blurb attempting confuse people further on the issue.

I'm not attempting to confuse anyone, why is it not legitimate to discuss if these have not been caused by climate change and some act like they were?

Originally posted by Scribble
Afro, you're fighting a losing battle. Taking a mixed/more centrist stance here doesn't work, because tribe mentality has set in too strong (as you've said, it's incredibly prevalent in real life, too). You're either a Nazi or a Libtard, apparently. Any attempts at pointing out hypocrisy on both sides will only elicit both of those previous insults at once, or (seen above) attempts to poke holes in your character due to you being 'arrogant' or 'sanctimonious'.

You're a sanctimonious nazi-tard.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
It doesn't seem like hurricanes are getting worse to you?

Who cares what Fly thinks? LOL

What matters is the data. The data has been confirming man-caused climate change for a long, long time. It's people who have been deceived by disinformation that keep spreading doubt.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Who cares what Fly thinks? LOL

What matters is the data. The data has been confirming man-caused climate change for a long, long time. It's people who have been deceived by disinformation that keep spreading doubt.

IMO it is valid to be concerned about disinformation, but these scientists coming forward aren't even weighing in on climate change as a whole, just whether or not these hurricanes were caused by it.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Who cares what Fly thinks? LOL

Well you mentioned my comment also so...

Originally posted by Patient_Leech

What matters is the data. The data has been confirming man-caused climate change for a long, long time. It's people who have been deceived by disinformation that keep spreading doubt.

That falls under the "Made Up Science" part.

@ Surtur/Bill Nye article

Interesting... I don't know that much about climate science tbh so I can't say that these specific storms are linked to climate change.

But I saw this article saying that there is some scientific evidence that warming the climate does make some hurricanes more intense/stronger.

Global satellite data since 1981 can be used to extend analysis of hurricane intensity to each ocean, looking for any trend in wind speed (Elsner 2008). Figure 3 plots the long term trend in maximum wind speed (eg - whether hurricanes are getting stronger or weaker) against different strength hurricanes. This tells us not only whether hurricanes are overall getting stronger but also how different strength hurricanes are being affected. Overall, there is a statistically significant upward trend (the horizontal red line). But more significantly, Elsner found weaker hurricanes showed little to no trend while stronger hurricanes showed a greater upward trend. In other words, stronger hurricanes are getting stronger. This means that as sea temperatures continue to rise, the number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes hitting land will inevitably increase.