Originally posted by JBL
Sign!! Being someone's equal does not mean you can defeat that person in a fight. Cap and supey have always been equals and always will be, no matter who defeats who. Oh and hulk wins.
Sigh indeed!!!
Being someone's equal means stalemating them, right? Never said that being equal means beating someone, lol. That's....the antithesis of being equal.
Here is the fight with Marvel in Kingdom Come:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5E5CmMIqutM/VRJjKbzeMlI/AAAAAAAJDrA/kEhB5RDLUNs/s1600/p6_145%2Bcopy.jpg
'Damn it Marvel, snap out of it!...we have to work together!'
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AbZjVLrsfkw/VRJjRqUzG3I/AAAAAAAJDsk/4pWYCJCumW0/s1600/p6_155%2Bcopy.jpg
'In the name of heaven, how can you do this?'
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pxNJaHqn5sQ/VRJjULJ55lI/AAAAAAAJDtI/6x4iEX-jQ5c/s1600/p6_159%2Bcopy.jpg
'Enough!'
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3oRzJAEqweU/VRJjUmpEWFI/AAAAAAAJDtU/1f6gs_w_BDo/s1600/p6_160%2Bcopy.jpg
'ENOUGH!'
Superman was trying to talk his old friend down. Get through to him. Marvel was just ignoring him, and then called the lightning - using his speed to outspeed Superman and get out of the way. Superman had enough, and then Billy's speed was too slow.
Using Superman as a gauge is faulty, as the 'fight' was over as soon as Superman stopped trying to talk him down. Had he done so at the start of the fight, then Marvel wouldn't have delayed him for as long.
Unless you're one of those guys who thinks Superman released his mental blocks?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It's not as if Superman was able to physically beat him - he caught his human form. Superman was explicitly countered by Marvel, while he was trying to contain the battle. He was physically unable to overcome his powered form. And let's not forget that the battle contained Justice League + nearly every other superhuman on Earth, and yet it was said Cap was the only one other than Superman able to stop it.
Yeah everyone said this and that, but when push came to shove, Superman ended the fight. Lip service is good and all, but he was found wanting when Supey got serious.
The mere fact that he was physically roughly equal with the same [KC] Superman who was >>> mainstream Superman:
Means he shitstomps here.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaDelusional. WW Hulk would break him. Superior/dynamic strength, healing factor, smarter, more tactical, etc.
It's not as if Superman was able to physically beat him - he caught his human form. Superman was explicitly countered by Marvel, while he was trying to contain the battle. He was physically unable to overcome his powered form. And let's not forget that the battle contained Justice League + nearly every other superhuman on Earth, and yet it was said Cap was the only one other than Superman able to stop it.The mere fact that he was physically roughly equal with the same [KC] Superman who was >>> mainstream Superman:
Means he shitstomps here.
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I question KC Superman being stronger than mainstream Supes, he doesn't hold back, but that's about it. I also question Marvel being a match for KC Supes in the Kingdom.
Your answers to both of the aforementioned points don't address the following.
Can World War Hulk defeat Kingdom Come Captain Marvel?
The answer is an EMPHATIC NO!!!!
Marevel's performance against KC Superman puts him a full tier above Banner.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe(3x Shazam). No actual proof on panel iirc. One could also say that he was most likely dodging the lightning as it came down since his whole point was for the lightning to hit the nuke. Plus iirc the three shots may have come down all together at once.
FILTHY, UNWORTHY, LIES!!!!
Unlike your HERO the blonde, whore, Odinson, a nuke means NOTHING to Marvel.
THE PROOF IS PRESENT HERETIC JUST COUNT THE TIMES HE SAID SHAZAM!!!
Hmmm. Guess u have better eyes than me considering u can see Billy through all that smoke and explosion... You know... The explosion caused by three lightning strikes seemingly hitting the are where the nuke was, all at once.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LDvhmNktS1g/VRJjZLRBAaI/AAAAAAAJDuM/ntEZT7wVZVs/s1600/p6_167%2Bcopy.jpg
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hmmm. Guess u have better eyes than me considering u can see Billy through all that smoke and explosion... You know... The explosion caused by three lightning strikes seemingly hitting the are where the nuke was, all at once.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LDvhmNktS1g/VRJjZLRBAaI/AAAAAAAJDuM/ntEZT7wVZVs/s1600/p6_167%2Bcopy.jpg
COUNT ALL THE LIGHTNING STRIKES HAMMER LICKER!!!!
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe(3x Shazam). No actual proof on panel iirc. One could also say that he was most likely dodging the lightning as it came down since his whole point was for the lightning to hit the nuke. Plus iirc the three shots may have come down all together at once.
How could he dodge when he was holding onto the missile the whole time?
He was easily dodging his lightning by moving a mere few feet when he let it hit Kal-l.. He could easily do the same.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AbZjVLrsfkw/VRJjRqUzG3I/AAAAAAAJDsk/4pWYCJCumW0/s1600/p6_155%2Bcopy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-baGdbWIgcO4/VRJjSrT5n8I/AAAAAAAJDs0/W-dv_0gwL1A/s1600/p6_156%2Bcopy.jpg
In any case, he most likely shifted enough to let the lightning strikes hit the nuke. No point in him eating the lightning. Kinda defeats the purpose of letting it hit your target if he simply let it hit him. Imo.
