Should we bow in fear and run away from this phrase?

Started by Surtur11 pages

I actually do not think some want it questioned at all. This is the impression I get. That if you question it at ALL you are a climate denier.

The hysteria has gotten to a point where some broken pumps and shit lead to flooding in New Orleans and some officials blamed...the pumps. Ha no, but one administration official said it was climate change.

It's an agenda for some, something to squawk about.

Science is advanced through asking questions.

Ask a scientist or someone who has trained as a scientist.

Originally posted by shiv
Science is advanced through asking questions.

Ask a scientist or someone who has trained as a scientist.

That just leads us to the total sum of all of Man's knowledge being boiled down to just 4 words.

Originally posted by shiv
Science is advanced through asking questions.

Ask a scientist or someone who has trained as a scientist.

But no, you can't ask them, because it's wrong. Neil Degrasse Tyson said so, and you literally can't find a single stupid thing the man has ever said assuming you do not google "stupid things Neil Degrasse Tyson has said".

He also doesn't fabricate quotes ether, shut your mouth about that and do not google it either.

there is no study that we can start or discovery that we can find without inquiry

Originally posted by shiv
there is no study that we can start or discovery that we can find without inquiry

Yeah but...(insert Neil Degrasse Tyson quote). Check and...mate.

Originally posted by Surtur
]I actually do not think some want it questioned at all. This is the impression I get. That if you question it at ALL you are a climate denier.

The hysteria has gotten to a point where some broken pumps and shit lead to flooding in New Orleans and some officials blamed...the pumps. Ha no, but one administration official said it was climate change.

It's an agenda for some, something to squawk about.

I think with issues like climate change, it's more because of the fact that there's so much proof of it that questioning it is considered unreasonable, and denying it far moreso.

At this point, enough data has been gathered around the world to suggest climate change is a serious thing, our environment is getting seriously damaged and our echosystems are starting to suffer a lot of consequences. This also manifests in day-to-day sh!t in a lot of countries, where weather patterns are all over the place.

And while I certainly understand where you're coming from with this statement: "I actually do not think some want it questioned at all. This is the impression I get. That if you question it at ALL you are a climate denier."

It works both ways. A lot of the people who "question" climate change give off the impression that they don't question it out of a logical reason, but rather outright deny it because it goes against their ideologies, beliefs, etc.

What about those that treat Climate Change like it is a Ideological Belief? Which is what turns a lot of those "non believers" away from them...

Already addressed it: it goes both ways. Neither extreme is good, but you can't justify one exteme by saying another exists.

So Middle of the Lane Porridge with no Sugar is the the best way to go?

Sounds like a dull and taste less way to go about it.

If you're going to hop to extremes just because you're bored, then I'd seriously question your cognitive functions if I was you.

Also, it doesn't neccessarily have to be "porridge with no sugar", it just has to be practical and, yeno, not self-destructive.

Originally posted by Surtur
And the size and population of the UK vs US is what?
Originally posted by Robtard
UK - 65mil, USA = 323mil

But that's why I listed the "per capita" rankings, sport. Do less drugs, okay?

per cap-it-a

adverb & adjective

-for each person; in relation to people taken individually.

Originally posted by Surtur
Christ almighty I asked you a question Rob lol. Stop flipping out.

Originally posted by MythLord
I think with issues like climate change, it's more because of the fact that there's so much proof of it that questioning it is considered unreasonable, and denying it far moreso.

At this point, enough data has been gathered around the world to suggest climate change is a serious thing, our environment is getting seriously damaged and our echosystems are starting to suffer a lot of consequences. This also manifests in day-to-day sh!t in a lot of countries, where weather patterns are all over the place.

And while I certainly understand where you're coming from with this statement: [B]"I actually do not think some want it questioned at all. This is the impression I get. That if you question it at ALL you are a climate denier."

It works both ways. A lot of the people who "question" climate change give off the impression that they don't question it out of a logical reason, but rather outright deny it because it goes against their ideologies, beliefs, etc. [/B]

Good post

Thanks.

Originally posted by MythLord
I think with issues like climate change, it's more because of the fact that there's so much proof of it that questioning it is considered unreasonable, and denying it far moreso.

At this point, enough data has been gathered around the world to suggest climate change is a serious thing, our environment is getting seriously damaged and our echosystems are starting to suffer a lot of consequences. This also manifests in day-to-day sh!t in a lot of countries, where weather patterns are all over the place.

And while I certainly understand where you're coming from with this statement: [B]"I actually do not think some want it questioned at all. This is the impression I get. That if you question it at ALL you are a climate denier."

It works both ways. A lot of the people who "question" climate change give off the impression that they don't question it out of a logical reason, but rather outright deny it because it goes against their ideologies, beliefs, etc. [/B]

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Good post

I read his post because you said it was good. That's a compliment to you, Sin. <3

I do not necessarily disagree.

But I'd like to point out that most of these deniers do not deny climate change. They deny "anthropogenic climate change." Climate change is very real and almost none of them deny it. I, personally, have never come across a person who denied climate change.

I think we should definitely being tackling climate change in 2 ways:

1. Climate change is happening. Burning Fossils fuels or not: we are coming out of an ice age. It's going to happen and pretending that dropping Carbon Dioxide below 400ppm or even 300ppm is going to change that is not only anthropocentrically arrogant, is laughably ignorant.

2. Renewable and clean energies should be pursued. A renewable energy should not be purused if it is dirty and harms us or the environment, of course. We have enough maturity in our environmental sciences to know how to do this right. So I do not think we have any room for excuses for creating 'dirty' renewable energy sources.

Originally posted by MythLord
If you're going to hop to extremes just because you're bored, then I'd seriously question your cognitive functions if I was you.

Also, it doesn't neccessarily have to be "porridge with no sugar", it just has to be practical and, yeno, not self-destructive.

Blah Blah Blah If you Disagree with me that makes you an extremists blah blah blah Leftst Rhetoric yadda yadda.

What ever you say Mythy....Now if you will excuse me. I am gonna go enjoy some porridge with brown sugar and cinnamon...NUMMERS!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Blah Blah Blah If you Disagree with me that makes you an extremists blah blah blah Leftst Rhetoric yadda yadda.

What ever you say Mythy....Now if you will excuse me. I am gonna go enjoy some porridge with brown sugar and cinnamon...NUMMERS! [/B]

I'm centrist, not leftist. But yeah, you're an extremist; good to see you can admit that. 👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not necessarily disagree.

But I'd like to point out that most of these deniers do not deny climate change. They deny "anthropogenic climate change." Climate change is very real and almost none of them deny it. I, personally, have never come across a person who denied climate change.

I think we should definitely being tackling climate change in 2 ways:

1. Climate change is happening. Burning Fossils fuels or not: we are coming out of an ice age. It's going to happen and pretending that dropping Carbon Dioxide below 400ppm or even 300ppm is going to change that is not only anthropocentrically arrogant, is laughably ignorant.

2. Renewable and clean energies should be pursued. A renewable energy should not be purused if it is dirty and harms us or the environment, of course. We have enough maturity in our environmental sciences to know how to do this right. So I do not think we have any room for excuses for creating 'dirty' renewable energy sources.

Alright, so there's not much in this post I disagree with. Climate Change will always be a thing given the Earth is suppose to change, but a lot of the sh!t humans do is changing the climate in ways that harm us.

We can't outright stop climate change, but we can at least try to not create additional consequences, is what I'm trying to get at. But there's a lot of people who seem to deny the idea that humans have any form of power over the environment, thus relieving their hands of the responsibility.

I get the gist of your post and agree with it.

Originally posted by MythLord
Alright, so there's not much in this post I disagree with. Climate Change will always be a thing given the Earth is suppose to change, but a lot of the sh!t humans do is changing the climate in ways that harm us.

We can't outright stop climate change, but we can at least try to not create additional consequences, is what I'm trying to get at. But there's a lot of people who seem to deny the idea that humans have any form of power over the environment, thus relieving their hands of the responsibility.

I get the gist of your post and agree with it.

Can you tell me a way to avoid additional consequences that wouldn't involve a lot of people losing their jobs, etc.?

I'd first like an explanation as to how helping the environment takes away people's jobs.