Originally posted by Surtur
You wanted a step by step breakdown of what I'd do. That is longer than one sentence.Also just clarify, are we dealing with conservative Sin today or liberal Sin? One day you're saying you're a staunch conservative, the next you're a liberal. You remember that, right? How you flip flopped when convenient? It wasn't even an "I agree with certain things from both sides". It was just one day you're conservative, the next you aren't.
Concession accepted. Stop deflecting Surtur its disconcerting. If you dont know or are simply ignorant.. say you dont know. Im not falling for your theatrics.
Originally posted by Robtard
Pollution/climate change is one of those things that the "it's not happening, it's a hoax" people will never get on board until shit gets REALLY bad; even then they'll likely just wash their hands of it.Look at Los Angeles in the late 60's/ early70's as a micro example. Denied, denied, denied until the smog was so bad it'd block out the sun at times and people's eyes would sting and water.
China's only coming on board in the last decade or so since their city bound populations are suffering ill health due to their massive smog problems.
Its because people hate accepting responsibility.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Concession accepted. Stop deflecting Surtur its disconcerting. If you dont know or are simply ignorant.. say you dont know. Im not falling for your theatrics.
What theatrics? Like flip flopping on if you're conservative or liberal depending on what day of the week it is?
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]For once I agree. You are an Ignorant Fool. [/B]
Leave Steve alone. He is obviously in love with Rob, follows him around like a little puppy. I don't have the heart to just go "He's just not that into you". I almost feel bad for the poor little tyke.
Originally posted by SurturI like women kid, even some of my exes, it's why I'm not online everyday... Stop projecting. 😉
What theatrics? Like flip flopping on if you're conservative or liberal depending on what day of the week it is?Leave Steve alone. He is obviously in love with Rob, follows him around like a little puppy. I don't have the heart to just go "He's just not that into you". I almost feel bad for the poor little tyke.
Originally posted by Surtur
What theatrics? Like flip flopping on if you're conservative or liberal depending on what day of the week it is?Leave Steve alone. He is obviously in love with Rob, follows him around like a little puppy. I don't have the heart to just go "He's just not that into you". I almost feel bad for the poor little tyke.
Sigh, it was a simple question guy.
Be yourself surt, quit trying to fill Times shoes. Being edgey isnt your strong suit.
Moving on...
Originally posted by Sin I AM
People appreciate smart phone technology, we like the science of how are cable works (no-one is hassling the IT guy about what school he went to), every piece of equipment from calculators to microwave ovens involve science.
Meh, they are. They really are. I think it is worse for the IT guys. Bachelors from an online university? Looked over in the stack of resumes.
And MD is and MD is an MD no matter what college you went to. No one cares about that. As long as you're licenses. When is the last time you looked to see what college your MD went to? Your Climatologist? Exactly. No one cares.
Edit - I know people will do that internet thing so beforehand: licensed MDs. Of course some care but almost no one does. Etc. IT peeps get a lot of flack for where they attended college. Also, Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy for a reason. You're an authority because you probably know vivid and nuanced details about a particular topic and know the research and results off the top of your head.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Meh, they are. They really are. I think it is worse for the IT guys. Bachelors from an online university? Looked over in the stack of resumes.And MD is and MD is an MD no matter what college you went to. No one cares about that. As long as you're licenses. When is the last time you looked to see what college your MD went to? Your Climatologist? Exactly. No one cares.
Edit - I know people will do that internet thing so beforehand: licensed MDs. Of course some care but almost no one does. Etc. IT peeps get a lot of flack for where they attended college. Also, Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy for a reason. You're an authority because you probably know vivid and nuanced details about a particular topic and know the research and results off the top of your head.
Exactly. I use to work with IT guys who never received attention until sonething messed up. Sucks
I fail to see why people can't use the term "Scientists said so...". I mean, of course I'd like a source just to brush up on the facts and I'd like to be introduced to the concept of a counter argument also based on science, but just denying it cause it might be biased or bought is how you get people thinking the Earth is flat.
Originally posted by MythLord
I fail to see why people can't use the term "Scientists said so...". I mean, of course I'd like a source just to brush up on the facts and I'd like to be introduced to the concept of a counter argument also based on science, but just denying it cause it might be biased or bought is how you get people thinking the Earth is flat.
And at the same time though I think the higher the stakes are for the claim the more we need to know about who is claiming it.
I don't advocate outright denying something. On the other hand, wagging your finger at anyone daring to question it will not help either.
Originally posted by Surtur
And at the same time though I think the higher the stakes are for the claim the more we need to know about who is claiming it.
Honestly, the Who doesn't matter to me as much as the Why and the What. As in, why such a claim would be made and on what grounds. You don't need to be a big-name scientist to make a good breakthrough that's supported by empirical evidence.
I'm also always one for presenting empirical evidence as oppose to just saying Well, yeno, that guy said this!.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't advocate outright denying something. On the other hand, wagging your finger at anyone daring to question it will not help either.
To be fair, I don't think a lot of the people who refer to scientists want it to not be questioned, it's just a matter of much grounds someone would have for questioning it. If I was to set up a premise and the premise is disagreeable to you because of a logical reason you can back up, that's fine. But the majority can't accept facts because of a personal belief, political opinion or religion. It's willfull ignorance.