Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderFalse.
The only one not showing evidence its you.The Night Watch has oil which still burns as hot.
Fire cant harm them. If you bring me one wiki i can bring you 10.
White walkers are immune to fire. Simply because they are so cold.
There is no evidence to say they are.
In this case my speculatuon is stronger than yours since theyve walked through flames.
Not all fire is equal. If someone withstands a lighter fire does that mean they can withstand a flame thrower.
No proof that they are immune to dragon fire. You posted the GoT link and now are attempting to ignore it.
So iyo the sun can't hurt them ?
Not all flames are created equal. It's like saying no punches can hurt someone because one guys punches can't hurt someone.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderWhat has the NK even survived ?
There is no evidence Smaug can kill the NK.There are strong arguments that NK can kill Smaug.
Smaug loses this match for lack of evidence of him winning this fight.
Since no one has even hit him with anything impressive you're claiming he's unkilllable.
Smaug wins. More impressive showings, far bigger, far smarter, more durable, can fly, etc.
Originally posted by Sable
So the Night King can't be killed now?
Not by fire.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False.Not all fire is equal. If someone withstands a lighter fire does that mean they can withstand a flame thrower.
No proof that they are immune to dragon fire. You posted the GoT link and now are attempting to ignore it.
So iyo the sun can't hurt them ?
Not all flames are created equal. It's like saying no punches can hurt someone because one guys punches can't hurt someone.
Then why the Nights Watch didnt use fire or oil to burn them? Jon specifically said that only DG and Valyrian steel could until proven otherwise dore cant kill them. Again my proofs are stronger than yours.
Fire Dragon cant harm him. Else you bring me proof of that. Until then Smaug's fire is useless.
Smaug loses this. You are being guided by your preferences instead of evidence.
Smaug is abigger and easier target to hit.
NK is a good shooter.
NK isnt impulsive. He will wait for the right time.
NK as other WW havent been show to be killed by fire.
The only chance Smaug has is to use physical damage. And who knows even that isnt proven to be able to kill White Walkers.
Your points:
1. Smaug will dodge the spear. That is stupid. Smaug is a bigger target, and it is moving towards NK. This point gets rejected.
2. Smaug fire can kill NK. Rejected, no evidence dragon fire can kill WW else bring it.
3. Smaug is intelligent. NK is also, this point is gets Neutralized.
NK wins due to the odds. Again, be rational.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderWhen did the night watch have access to a dragon ? We saw dragons wreck shop on the majority of the horde. What WW showed themselves invulnerable to dragon fire ? No examples so it doesn't have any weight.
Not by fire.Then why the Nights Watch didnt use fire or oil to burn them? Jon specifically said that only DG and Valyrian steel could until proven otherwise dore cant kill them. Again my proofs are stronger than yours.
Fire Dragon cant harm him. Else you bring me proof of that. Until then Smaug's fire is useless.
Smaug loses this. You are being guided by your preferences instead of evidence.
Smaug is abigger and easier target to hit.
NK is a good shooter.
NK isnt impulsive. He will wait for the right time.
NK as other WW havent been show to be killed by fire.The only chance Smaug has is to use physical damage. And who knows even that isnt proven to be able to kill White Walkers.
Your points:
1. Smaug will dodge the spear. That is stupid. Smaug is a bigger target, and it is moving towards NK. This point gets rejected.
2. Smaug fire can kill NK. Rejected, no evidence dragon fire can kill WW else bring it.
3. Smaug is intelligent. NK is also, this point is gets Neutralized.
NK wins due to the odds. Again, be rational.
1. He missed against a huge dragon who was aware. Not my fault the guy pissed like a chump. Evidence supports me.
2. It's up to you to prove he resists dragon fire not some random shit fire started by the children of the forest.
3. Based off what is NK intelligent in combat ?
Nah, Smaug is faster, more durable, far bigger, etc. even the GoT wiki page says the white walkers haven't proven themselves invulnerable to dragon fire.
Originally posted by Sable
How can he not be killed by dragon fire?
NK moved towards Drogon without even doubting it.
He got close to the Dragons and gave a **** about it.
IF HE KNEW FIRE DRAGON COULD KILL HIM, DO YOU THINK HE WOULDVE GOT CLOSE!?
AGAIN BE RATIONAL PEOPLE!
CANT YOU USE YOUR LOGIC?
He even WALKED over Dragon fire if you didnt notice! That was dragon fire burning 100s of degrees hot. Any man would have gotten burnt to that!
PLEASE BE RATIONAL. ELSE VS FORUMS WOULD HAVE NO POINT.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did the night watch have access to a dragon ? We saw dragons wreck shop on the majority of the horde. What WW showed themselves invulnerable to dragon fire ? No examples so it doesn't have any weight.1. He missed against a huge dragon who was aware. Not my fault the guy pissed like a chump. Evidence supports me.
2. It's up to you to prove he resists dragon fire not some random shit fire started by the children of the forest.
3. Based off what is NK intelligent in combat ?
Nah, Smaug is faster, more durable, far bigger, etc. even the GoT wiki page says the white walkers haven't proven themselves invulnerable to dragon fire.
Watch the video i linked to saber and get back to me.
All evidence is agains you.
You are placing your hopes that Smaug would evade it.
He is Much Bigger than Valyrion. He is getting closer to NK.
NK stomps.
Am not gonna debate IRRATIONALITY.
Originally posted by quanchi112hey quan good to have u back.
You act like he was not 1/2 in javelin tosses. He also missed the dragon who was aware of him tossing a javelin.
On the flip side of your point, smaug is 0/2 in dodging spears, and was standing right in front of bard talking shit while he was pointing the black arrow right at him, and he just charged straight ahead and tried to tank it.
Why do u think that he will even try to dodge the nk's? Especially since he had the knowledge that the black arrows can hurt him, yet he didn't even make an attempt at dodging bards.
In my opinion, smaug would over confidently try to tank the arrow and take one right in the chest. Whether or not it would Pierce him is anyones guess. Id put the odds right at 50/50 for that.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
NK moved towards Drogon without even doubting it.He got close to the Dragons and gave a **** about it.
IF HE KNEW FIRE DRAGON COULD KILL HIM, DO YOU THINK HE WOULDVE GOT CLOSE!?
AGAIN BE RATIONAL PEOPLE!
CANT YOU USE YOUR LOGIC?
He even WALKED over Dragon fire if you didnt notice! That was dragon fire burning 100s of degrees hot. Any man would have gotten burnt to that!
PLEASE BE RATIONAL. ELSE VS FORUMS WOULD HAVE NO POINT.
He used his magic to quell the flame temporarily as he walked over, stop exaggerating that to mean he can't be hurt by fire.
Be Rational.
[QUOTE=16327948]Originally posted by Raptor22
hey quan good to have u back.
On the flip side of your point, smaug is 0/2 in dodging spears, and was standing right in front of bard talking shit while he was pointing the black arrow right at him, and he just charged straight ahead and tried to tank it.
Why do u think that he will even try to dodge the nk's? Especially since he had the knowledge that the black arrows can hurt him, yet he didn't even make an attempt at dodging bards.
In my opinion, smaug would over confidently try to tank the arrow and take one right in the chest. Whether or not it would Pierce him is anyones guess. Id put the odds right at 50/50 for that. [/QUOTE
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The samething ive been trying to tell him like 1000 times.
Smaug is to proud to be dodging things.
Originally posted by Sable
He wasn't anywhere close to the range of Drogan, and Dragon was distracted. He knew this, which is why he advanced.Where is your logic?
No one in his sane judgement would get close to a dragon although this is distracted the Way the NK did! Again your logic is terrible.
NK wasnt even cautious. And yes, Drogon was in range!
IK you Love Smaug but he dies here. Dont let favoritism cloud your judgement.
Originally posted by Sable
He wasn't even close.. I don't love Smaug actually. I think he's pretty foolish to care about gold he can't use.
So you should agree he loses this one!
It is evident smaug isnt wise enough to evade the NK.
He will most likely charge him.
The NK just needs one Spear to bring him down
Also remember tjat Smaug is much larger than Valyrion was. He is an easier target.
Smaug loses.