Count Dooku vs Starkiller

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Count Dooku vs Starkiller

Prime versions for all.

Force, sabers, and all out -- who wins and why?

Dooku in 'sabers, 'killer in Force - All-Out; not sure. Prolly 'killer though.

Killer being>Dooku would make the gap between ROTJ Vader and Dooku really big btw.

Tyranus, honestly.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Killer being>Dooku would make the gap between ROTJ Vader and Dooku really big btw.

Why? He's better than both of them, so they could be equal for all we know.

Dooku.

Starkiller takes force and all out in a brutal fight. Dooku humiliates him in sabers only though

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Dooku in 'sabers, 'killer in Force - All-Out; not sure. Prolly 'killer though.

Genuinely interested why Killer would take Force

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Genuinely interested why Killer would take Force

Redirecting the descent of a Star Destroyer, even with a very little acceleration is far better than anything Dooku ever did, tbh.

Dooku sweeps

In b4 we start the cruiser debate again

Starkiller, honestly.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Killer being>Dooku would make the gap between ROTJ Vader and Dooku really big btw.

No it wouldn't. Starkiller's position in comparison to Dooku has no effect on the distance between Vader and Dooku.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Genuinely interested why Killer would take Force

I'm genuinely interested in why you think he wouldn't

👆

Originally posted by Rebel95
I'm genuinely interested in why you think he wouldn't

Dooku's scaling is better, from being massively more powerful than K'krukh who himself ripped a fully functional ship out of the air to being far more powerful than AotC Anakin who moved a dreadnought. Besides, him throwing around huge cruisers with ease is at least on a similar level as Killer adjusting the StarDestroyer. Even though the SD is 10 - 20 times bigger, Dooku required far less effort while also throwing it around which on itself is far more difficult than slightly moving a falling ship.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Redirecting the descent of a Star Destroyer, even with a very little acceleration is far better than anything Dooku ever did, tbh.

👆 Also, I guess you can scale him from Rahm.

Originally posted by MythLord
Tyranus, honestly.

Why?

Also, @Syn Hangouts.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Dooku's scaling is better, from being massively more powerful than K'krukh who himself ripped a fully functional ship out of the air to being far more powerful than AotC Anakin who moved a dreadnought. Besides, him throwing around huge cruisers with ease is at least on a similar level as Killer adjusting the StarDestroyer. Even though the SD is 10 - 20 times bigger, Dooku required far less effort while also throwing it around which on itself is far more difficult than slightly moving a falling ship.

He also grew more powerful after redirecting the star destroyer. And what about Starkiller's feats against Vader, who I think we can both agree is superior to Dooku?

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Dooku's scaling is better, from being massively more powerful than K'krukh who himself ripped a fully functional ship out of the air to being far more powerful than AotC Anakin who moved a dreadnought.

It's very questionable if Anakin can actually bring that level of power to bear in his fights at that time, since Ventress, who never showed anything remotely comparable to that, managed to push Anakin around with the force. This is further corroborated when he managed to shield himself and a village from a theta storm - one of the best force feats in the mythos - which Kenobi doubted even Yoda could replicate.

Besides, him throwing around huge cruisers with ease is at least on a similar level as Killer adjusting the StarDestroyer. Even though the SD is 10 - 20 times bigger, Dooku required far less effort while also throwing it around which on itself is far more difficult than slightly moving a falling ship.

No, no. It's not. Dooku threw cruiser with less than 1/10 the size of the Star Destroyer. A ship of that size, for Star Wars parameters would, if much, be around 1,000-2,000 tons in weight. The Star Destroyer, on the other hand, should weight around 2,000,000 tons and it's already full of momentum, falling into the planet, quite different from the cruisers Dooku lifted up and threw. Don't me interpret me wrong, Dooku's feat is extremely impressive but Starkiller's in on another realm of magnitude.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
It's very questionable if Anakin can actually bring that level of power to bear in his fights at that time, since Ventress, who never showed anything remotely comparable to that, managed to push Anakin around with the force. This is further corroborated when he managed to shield himself and a village from a theta storm - one of the best force feats in the mythos - which Kenobi doubted even Yoda could replicate.

No, no. It's not. Dooku threw cruiser with less than 1/10 the size of the Star Destroyer. A ship of that size, for Star Wars parameters would, if much, be around 1,000-2,000 tons in weight. The Star Destroyer, on the other hand, should weight around 2,000,000 tons and it's already full of momentum, falling into the planet, quite different from the cruisers Dooku lifted up and threw. Don't me interpret me wrong, Dooku's feat is extremely impressive but Starkiller's in on another realm of magnitude.

Yeah, miscalculation on my side. Either way, the momentum of the SD was downwards while SK moved it more horizontally so it's not going to influence it that much. On the other hand, by throwing the ship Dooku needed to counter gravity and move it (thus performing a far more complicated set of movements) while also doing it with joyfull ease contrary to SK, who needed all his power. I find it more impressive, especially if you take into account Anakin's dreadnaught feat (someone Dooku at that point extremely outclasses).