Count Dooku vs Starkiller

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Dooku's scaling is better, from being massively more powerful than K'krukh who himself ripped a fully functional ship out of the air to being far more powerful than AotC Anakin who moved a dreadnought. Besides, him throwing around huge cruisers with ease is at least on a similar level as Killer adjusting the StarDestroyer. Even though the SD is 10 - 20 times bigger, Dooku required far less effort while also throwing it around which on itself is far more difficult than slightly moving a falling ship.

Being better then people who moved large ships doesn't mean he can move a ship exponentially larger then the ones his inferiors did.

And for your claim regarding the Korriban feat to be true we'd have to

1. Disregard the fact that he accomplished the feat on a DS nexus and

2. Assume the cruisers Dooku manipulated were 80-160 meters long.

3. Ignore the fact that prior to guiding the Star Destroyer's decent Galen had powered a blast that destroyed a superstructure which dwarfed 1600 meter long ships.

Even doing all that that wouldn't make throwing those ships around better then manipulating a million ton object that has gravity accelerating the force of its descent.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
while SK moved it more horizontally

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He moved the Star Destroyer not only against gravity but the the accelerated force of its descent as well when he upended the ISD after it impacted with the ground.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Yeah, miscalculation on my side. Either way, the momentum of the SD was downwards while SK moved it more horizontally so it's not going to influence it that much. On the other hand, by throwing the ship Dooku needed to counter gravity and move it (thus performing a far more complicated set of movements) while also doing it with joyfull ease contrary to SK, who needed all his power. I find it more impressive, especially if you take into account Anakin's dreadnaught feat (someone Dooku at that point extremely outclasses).

I honestly fail to see how Dooku throwing cruiser is more impressive and I'm quite acquinted with calculations. Dooku lifted and threw far smaller and far lighter ships. Even if Starkiller only applied a effective force in, let's say, 1/10 of the mass of the Star Destroyer, it's already an order of magnitude greater than Dooku's feat, at minimum. Not to say Starkiller had unfavorable circuntances as the descending ship obviously limited his choices in what to exactly do in that circunstances, while Dooku had just to lift some cruisers from the ground.

Exactly. Even if the ships Dooku manipulated WERE 1/10 the length of the ISD they would still be far less then 1/10 the weight since they don't share it's height, width or depth ( not to mention all the equipment and ships it holds ).

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
I honestly fail to see how Dooku throwing cruiser is more impressive and I'm quite acquinted with calculations. Dooku lifted and threw far smaller and far lighter ships. Even if Starkiller only applied a effective force in, let's say, 1/10 of the mass of the Star Destroyer, it's already an order of magnitude greater than Dooku's feat, at minimum. Not to say Starkiller had unfavorable circuntances as the descending ship obviously limited his choices in what to exactly do in that circunstances, while Dooku had just to lift some cruisers from the ground.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I thought he just pushed them?

I tought Dooku lifted them up first (there's a passage in the book where Anakin and Obi Wan see the floating ships like "ghost ships", believe) and then he throws them. I can be misrememberig things, however. If Dooku just pushed them the feat clearly loses a good portion of it's hype.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Exactly. Even if the ships Dooku manipulated WERE 1/10 the length of the ISD they would still be far less then 1/10 the weight since they don't share it's height, width or depth ( not to mention all the equipment and ships it holds ).

Yeah, I already stated that the ships Dooku manipulated are around 800-2,000 tons in weight, while a Star Destroyer is a multimillion ton beast

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Dooku takes 'sabers, 'Killer takes everything else.