Have you raised Malak based on the Kun quote?

Personally, I don't take the quote at face value, considering that it's just one quote and thus doesn't set anything in stone (hence why I don't have Revan challenging likes of Sidious.)

But while I don't have Malak above Kun as of now, I have raised him quite a bit due to the quote (to the point where he can at least contend with Exar) because I believe it sheds light on how powerful the guy was intended to be.

Though I'm interested in your opinions. Have you raised him because of the quote? If so, how high is he now?

Can somebody please tell me what exactly this quote is?

On neutral ground, no. On the Star Forge, yes.

Yeah, I meant Kun on the Star Forge

@deathslash:

"An imposing figure with ghostly pale features, prominent Sith tattoos, a gleaming red lightsaber, and devastating Dark Side power, Malak struck terror into the hearts of his former allies. He also wore a vocal mask that may have concealed a form of cybernetic life-support. Did it provide him with powers far greater than even Exar Kun or Freedon Nadd, or was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation?"

―Wizards of the Coast: Darth Malak

Really? Jesus fvck guys.

Originally posted by slayne
Yeah, I meant Kun on the Star Forge

mother****er

I meant Malak lol

LOLNOPE

Based on Jen'Jedaii scaling and the quote, yes, SF Malak is ludicrously powerful by all accounts.

nope.

Nope. I just lowered Kun.

Originally posted by MythLord
Nope. I just lowered Kun.

Originally posted by MythLord
Nope. I just lowered Kun.

That's retarded.

If Dooku's legitimately contending with Yoda, that doesn't make Yoda a Dooku-tier - it makes Dooku a Yoda-tier, or puts him at least somewhere comparable to Yoda. There are a metric shitton of other such examples I can use to prove my point, as well.

Same goes with Malak and Kun - Kun isn't lowered, but Malak is boosted.

Originally posted by slayne
That's retarded.

If Dooku's legitimately contending with Yoda, that doesn't make Yoda a Dooku-tier - it makes Dooku a Yoda-tier.

Same goes with Malak and Kun - Kun isn't lowered, but Malak is boosted.

I'm still not taking that quote seriously

that u dont like malak > kun doesnt make it not true kek

Originally posted by ChocolateMuesli
that u dont like malak > kun doesnt make it not true kek

Reverse scaling isn't a thing, but apparently ignoring sources you don't like is. Your set of values is impeccable, Kbro; an uneducated man might think you're just picking and choosing what's convenient for your positions, but we know you'd never do that.

In any case, reverse scaling is absolutely a thing. Of course, if Exar Kun did something that I don't think Malak could do, that doesn't mean I have any ground to argue Exar couldn't do it either; that's silly. But most situations aren't that black and white.

For example, say I'm on the fence about how impressive defeating a relative unknown like Warb Null is. It's completely logical to find it less impressive because it was done by someone whose defined upper limit is "far inferior to Malak," than if there was no such limitation.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Reverse scaling isn't a thing, but apparently ignoring sources you don't like is. Your set of values is impeccable, Kbro; an uneducated man might think you're just picking and choosing what's convenient for your positions, but we know you'd never do that.

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In all honesty, I did raise SF Malak above Kun and as a result, now assume the rituals Vitiate carried out on Dromund Kaas raised his power significantly to account for the logical gap that should exist between himself and the likes of Revan and Malak ( even empowered by the Starforge ).