Originally posted by cdtmAzog destroys him. This isn't close. Oberyn is great for the GoT but this is Lotr.
Why not? He's certainly quick/agile enough to compete with just about anyone in Lord of the Rings (Who aren't demigods/arch-dieties anyways) He had The Mountain cold even without his ace, and that poison is supposed to be really strong.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Azog destroys him. This isn't close. Oberyn is great for the GoT but this is Lotr.
Eeeeh, that alone isn't enough to secure a win. Franchise branding aside though, Azog more than likley pulls a victory. Oberyn is fast, and squirriely alright, and one nick from the spear is bad, but Azog, and the entire Orc race are.... well lets just say they have all been through worse at the hands of Morgoth before. Venom is also nothing new to Orcs. The way they live, their immune systems are either buggered, or the most advanced and robust immune systems ever.
As for the actual combat itself, Azog isn't as slow or limited by armor as gregor was, and he's fought evenly with elves and dwarves before. So Oberyn is likely not going to be anything special to Azog, who also outpowers Gregor by sheer fact that he was able to not only survive a frozen bath beneath the ice unaffected, but was able to bust through it from beneath without any sort of leverage.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroWell I didn't go into detail but the conclusion is the same. Azog operates on a much higher level. Stronger, quicker, and more durable than the Mountain. Destroying the Mountain isn't comparable at all to taking on Azog. As I said previously GoT are far more realistic than Lotr characters. Azog is elite in Lotr.
Eeeeh, that alone isn't enough to secure a win. Franchise branding aside though, Azog more than likley pulls a victory. Oberyn is fast, and squirriely alright, and one nick from the spear is bad, but Azog, and the entire Orc race are.... well lets just say they have all been through worse at the hands of Morgoth before. Venom is also nothing new to Orcs. The way they live, their immune systems are either buggered, or the most advanced and robust immune systems ever.As for the actual combat itself, Azog isn't as slow or limited by armor as gregor was, and he's fought evenly with elves and dwarves before. So Oberyn is likely not going to be anything special to Azog, who also outpowers Gregor by sheer fact that he was able to not only survive a frozen bath beneath the ice unaffected, but was able to bust through it from beneath without any sort of leverage.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderThat is an example,to better illustrate my point. Oberyn is quick but can't withstand super strength. Azog is super strong and far more impressive in combat than the Mountain. Azog has more experience than Obeyrn. What battles did we see Oberyn in ?
You dont win battles by running over bricks.Azog loses this one due to lack of wisdom and experiece.
Lack of wisdom is hilarious here since Oberyn lost a fight he had in the bag.