Originally posted by carver9
Do you think Goku Black can beat Jiren?
Nope, Jiren beats Black. But in ToP where there are rules... Jiren is obviously curious about maximum power of opponent. Goku somehow managed to be at least rival of Jiren in his LBGoku form... ToP would be ideal for Black to reach and exceed Jiren and he would do it quicker than Goku. But if Jiren goes for a kill, than it would be troublesome for Black.
Still, it has nothing to do with Black. SSB Gogeta stomps Jiren.
Originally posted by Inedian
Nope, Jiren beats Black. But in ToP where there are rules... Jiren is obviously curious about maximum power of opponent. Goku somehow managed to be at least rival of Jiren in his LBGoku form... ToP would be ideal for Black to reach and exceed Jiren and he would do it quicker than Goku. But if Jiren goes for a kill, than it would be troublesome for Black.Still, it has nothing to do with Black. SSB Gogeta stomps Jiren.
Jiren hasn't even used his max power yet. He was holding back. This version of Goku kills Gogeta as well...easily.
Goku's boost wasnt a simple one he absorbed a genkidama powered by lots of strong fighters. He is prolly reaching God of Destruction lvls now but when Jiren got serious he 1 shot him.
Limit Breaker could be above Gogeta Imo since it isnt just a simple boost like ssj2 to ssj.
Jiren should easily beat Gogeta.
Originally posted by Estacado
Goku's boost wasnt a simple one he absorbed a genkidama powered by lots of strong fighters. He is prolly reaching God of Destruction lvls now but when Jiren got serious he 1 shot him.Limit Breaker could be above Gogeta Imo since it isnt just a simple boost like ssj2 to ssj.
Jiren should easily beat Gogeta.
The Spirit Bomb only allowed him to fight for a little longer. It was actually not the reason he was as strong as Jiren. They even commented that the spirt bomb power would not make him Jiren level.
Also he was one shot because he ran completely out of energy. Not that he was inferior.
They even show his eyes go black before the punch lands.
Originally posted by carver9
Jiren wasn't using all of his power but I think Goku was. Jiren power is frightening. They are going to have to jump him to win. I hope Gohan get a new transformation and beat Jiren.
😆 Some Carver logic right there.
Goku clearly didn't even consciously know what he was doing, and was outright stated to be out of power if not for the genkei dama boost, yet he went all out.
Originally posted by cdtm
😆 Some Carver logic right there.Goku clearly didn't even consciously know what he was doing, and was outright stated to be out of power if not for the genkei dama boost, yet he went all out.
So he was holding back? What makes you say this? Do you know what holding back means?