Rewind: Trump had one the Popular Vote but Lost the Electoral College

Originally posted by Sable
No I don't believe in that, I believe in the Federal Presidential Constitutional Republic. I don't believe in hoarding votes in major population centers controlled by Democrats with easy access to welfare and free money and forgetting about everyone else.

Ergo you don't believe in citizen equality. Why one person's vote counts as less, because you know the EC typically only helps one party and it's not the Democrat party.

Originally posted by Sable
No I don't believe in that, I believe in the Federal Presidential Constitutional Republic. I don't believe in hoarding votes in major population centers controlled by Democrats with easy access to welfare and free money and forgetting about everyone else.

Not really, I don't support hording people in population centers, supplying them with everything they need for votes. And forgetting about the people that feed them, such as the "fly over states."

Originally posted by cdtm
Because states have different needs. And state identity is built right into the system.

So Colorado totally has as much of a right to federal access as California.

Ergo not all citizens are equal :/

Originally posted by Robtard
Ergo not all citizens are equal :/

My friend, you're being facetious.

And thanks, I've been wanting to use that word for the longest time, but couldn't find an opportunity. 💃

Humor aside, it's true what I said. We do not have voting equality with the EC in place. The Founders would shit themselves harder than Surtur does whenever SteveZodiac post if they saw how skewed the EC is now in regards to voting equality citizen per citizen.

"THREE ****ING MILLION!?!?" -founding fathers

Granted, they'd also shit themselves knowing Black people and women could vote, but that's an aside to the citizen equality issue in the general scope of things

If every election brings up the same debate regardless of who won then considering changing the system is probably a good idea. The problem is it'll never happen because whoever wins has the power to change it but no motivation to do so.

Originally posted by Robtard
Granted, they'd also shit themselves knowing Black people and women could vote, but that's an aside to the citizen equality issue in the general scope of things

Another faint swipe at the founding fathers.

our sacred and holy founding fathers, hallowed be their names

Yea **** them right, **** everything.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

Oh Trumpers...

Originally posted by Sable
Another faint swipe at the founding fathers.

You realize that many of them were slaves owners and did not view women as equals. So you're be silly again here.

Oh Clintons

Originally posted by Robtard
You realize that many of them were slaves owners and did not view women as equals. So you're be silly again here.

As literally did every other country on earth at that time and before😂

But please, tell me how this is different!😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Humor aside, it's true what I said. We do not have voting equality with the EC in place. The Founders would shit themselves harder than Surtur does whenever SteveZodiac post if they saw how skewed the EC is now in regards to voting equality citizen per citizen.

A british guy said it best: "America is like 50 countries."

If the founders wanted pure democracy, they wouldn't have set up this representative system in the first place.

Sure, technically all people do NOT have an equal vote for the feds.. Instead, they have an equal vote to sway their state.

Because state power was an even bigger deal then federal power when the founders made this mess. I'm not sure we can do direct democracy even if we wanted to (Although there's that multi state pact that's trying to work its way around the issue.)

Originally posted by Sable
As literally did every other country on earth at that time and before😂

But please, tell me how this is different!😂

Did I claim anything of the sort? No, I did not. See, that's a strawman argument

Originally posted by Robtard
Did I claim anything of the sort? No, I did not. See, that's a strawman argument

Which is exactly what you did to me earlier and are still in denial of it. But what I did wasn't a straw man. Because I did not misrepresent your argument, you did mine. I simply stated we were no different then anyone else and the idea America is some horrible nation because women, slaves, etc, this is how the entire world was, so its fcking pathetic America has to tear down everything now because of it.

but SM said it best

Originally posted by Silent Master
I do find it interesting that for the most part, people that wonder what the big deal is because it's just a flag/anthem are the same ones that agree with removing statues/flag and vice versa.