Voldemort vs. Grindelwald

I just checked and Pottermore.com, the official website for all things Harry Potter, started and endorsed by Rowling herself, describes Voldemort as "the most powerful dark wizard of all time" on his bio.

Between that and all the evidence on screen and on the page, that settles the debate. The only way Grindelwald wins is if he gets lucky. And Grindelwald is called dark wizard too.

The only thing Grindelwald did that Voldemort didn't was have more conquered land under his belt. But that's only because Voldemort started with the hardest country first. Also,that period was different and it was a period of war.

Grindelwald only got as far as he did because Dumbledore wouldn't face him until there duel, while he actively worked against Voldemort during his reign (and from what some characters said it sounded like Voldemort was winning) and the book doesn't say that Grindelwald conquered Europe.

Also we don't know how powerful Dumbledore was in 1945, for all we know he might have not been as experienced then as when he fought Voldemort while using the elder wand against him and protecting Harry wasn't really an issue since Voldemort didn't really pay him any attention when Dumbledore arrived.

Grindelwald used the wand against Dumbledore and Dumbledore used the wand against Voldemort.

Dumbledore>Voldemort>Grindelwald.

This nonsense Grindelwald wank needs to end.

Tommy boy couldn't even kill a little kid.

Originally posted by Tom88
I just checked and Pottermore.com, the official website for all things Harry Potter, started and endorsed by Rowling herself, describes Voldemort as "the most powerful dark wizard of all time" on his bio.

Between that and all the evidence on screen and on the page, that settles the debate. The only way Grindelwald wins is if he gets lucky. And Grindelwald is called dark wizard too.

The only thing Grindelwald did that Voldemort didn't was have more conquered land under his belt. But that's only because Voldemort started with the hardest country first. Also,that period was different and it was a period of war.

Grindelwald only got as far as he did because Dumbledore wouldn't face him until there duel, while he actively worked against Voldemort during his reign (and from what some characters said it sounded like Voldemort was winning) and the book doesn't say that Grindelwald conquered Europe.

Also we don't know how powerful Dumbledore was in 1945, for all we know he might have not been as experienced then as when he fought Voldemort while using the elder wand against him and protecting Harry wasn't really an issue since Voldemort didn't really pay him any attention when Dumbledore arrived.

Grindelwald used the wand against Dumbledore and Dumbledore used the wand against Voldemort.

Dumbledore>Voldemort>Grindelwald.

This nonsense Grindelwald wank needs to end.

He is the most powerful Dark Wizard ever, not the most powerful duelist. Don't confuse the terms.

Voldermort's title is due to his great knowledge over dark forces, which lead him to create the holocruxes which basically made him undefeatable.

However this thread concerns Voldemort without the Holocruxes, which therefore means he doesn't have his invulnerability.

Under such circumstances, Grindelwald wins, since he is beyond Voldemort's duel abilities.

His title is because the Wizarding world is for the most part a bunch of racists, cowards and morons.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He is the most powerful Dark Wizard ever, not the most powerful duelist. Don't confuse the terms.

Voldermort's title is due to his great knowledge over dark forces, which lead him to create the holocruxes which basically made him undefeatable.

However this thread concerns Voldemort without the Holocruxes, which therefore means he doesn't have his invulnerability.

Under such circumstances, Grindelwald wins, since he is beyond Voldemort's duel abilities.

Stop with the excuses. That statement is clear. It was never stated or implied that Grindelwald is a better duelist, especially without the ender wald.

The only Voldemort weakness is the ""power of love"" and Grindelwald can't beat him with that.

You forgot a couple of Tommy boy's weaknesses. He's also a coward and fairly retarded.

Originally posted by Tom88
Seriously? the denial is strong here....

Stop with the excuses. That statement is clear. It was never stated or implied that Grindelwald is a better duelist, especially without the ender wald.

The only Voldemort weakness is the ""power of love"" and Grindelwald can't beat him with that.

Best Dark Wizzard doesnt mean best duelist. Read my previous post please!

Originally posted by juggerman
Concession accepted

Voldemort still wins over the lesser dark wizard.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Tommy boy couldn't even kill a little kid.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He is the most powerful Dark Wizard ever, not the most powerful duelist. Don't confuse the terms.

Voldermort's title is due to his great knowledge over dark forces, which lead him to create the holocruxes which basically made him undefeatable.

However this thread concerns Voldemort without the Holocruxes, which therefore means he doesn't have his invulnerability.

Under such circumstances, Grindelwald wins, since he is beyond Voldemort's duel abilities.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you think I would not seek you out after this film and reengage you you have gone soft.

Voldemort still wins over the lesser dark wizard.

I knew this was coming

Originally posted by juggerman
I knew this was coming

I fully expected your predictability

Originally posted by juggerman
I fully expected your predictability

Only when your mom comes over

Originally posted by juggerman
Only when your mom comes over

Don't disown your mommy. Where will you live?

Originally posted by juggerman
Don't disown your mommy. Where will you live?

I live with your mother.

She certaining is good a manipulating certain things.

You living in a graveyard explains a ton actually

Originally posted by juggerman
She certaining is good a manipulating certain things.

You living in a graveyard explains a ton actually