Possible reason liberals believe men are sexist, racist, misogynist pigs

Originally posted by Sable
Digi you are just as much to blame with the Rape thing as Raisen, you Brought it up first to avoid the actual issue. When it wasnt going your way, you brought in this nonsense.

No argument. Topics morph, and it's not TOO tangential a jump. But it was a response to rape culture comments. I had no intention of veering the topic that direction when I popped in originally.

I'll leave it be, now. Have a good weekend!

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Originally posted by Digi
Would you like to give a reasoned answer to my earlier question, or just repeat your narrative again...

Originally posted by Raisen
perspective is feelings dude. facts are facts.

lmao

Originally posted by Digi
No argument. Topics morph, and it's not TOO tangential a jump. But it was a response to rape culture comments. I had no intention of veering the topic that direction when I popped in originally.

I'll leave it be, now. Have a good weekend!

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lmao

what was your question? you type so much stuff at once I missed it.

Can we please stop talking about rape. This has nothing to do with the topic.

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Back on topic please

Originally posted by Digi
This is a valid response to my posts in this thread, but I'm very much about approaching topics empirically in general. And I wouldn't discount stats in this discussion, though it can occasionally be hard to analyze methodology and source without a deeper dive.

So, stepping back a second because my responses have also been in response to Surt and Sable, not you until now. Some of the %s you cite are far too high to be acceptable. So that's a problem, and one that I'd happily agree can be overstated to draw incorrect conclusions on either side.

But there are also topics where a subjective observation can inform empirical ones. Is it possible that rape stats can be grossly misrepresented due to false allegations, AND we have societal issues with our treatment toward women that make them more fearful and give them less freedom? The two need not be mutually exclusive.

We may not be in much disagreement here, tbh. You just caught my responses before I had addressed your own.

we don't have societal issues with how we treat women by and large. I believe in recent times women generally are treated as do no wrong princesses and men are generally vilified. for the last few decades men are depicted in media as fat retards and women are depicted as wonder women who hold everything together. makes sense considering that women buy most of the stuff so marketing will be friendly to them.
hope that answers your question. I missed this question earlier.

Originally posted by Raisen
I predicted the sarcasm. but dude, rape is terrible...it really is. but these "wars"...they are just to rile people up to manipulate them. that's really the point man.

I provide evidence. it's right there. so why not discuss it like an adult?

Don't take it personal, but I can't take the MRA (men's rights activism) stuff and related stuff seriously. Like I can't help but laugh when white hetero males (I know, not you) complain how no one has it harder than them in America. The very 'snowflakery' they often accuse others of.

Similar when people complain that their Christianity is being attacked and repressed, when it's the prominent and undisputed dominant religion in this country and is so powerful it has its own rather massive lobby in our government trying to make laws based on it. Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc, can't say that.

But sure, I could have just ignored it and not responded with sarcasm, so my bad.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't take it personal, but I can't take the MRA (men's rights activism) stuff and related stuff seriously. Like I can't help but laugh when white hetero males (I know, not you) complain how no one has it harder than them in America. The very 'snowflakery' they often accuse others of.

Similar when people complain that their Christianity is being attacked and repressed, when it's the prominent and undisputed dominant religion in this country and is so powerful it has it's own rather massive lobby in own government trying to make laws based on it. Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc, can't say that.

But sure, I could have just ignored it and not responded with sarcasm, so my bad.

mra stuff is silly to me either. doesn't mean there isn't crossover between some of my beliefs and theirs.

Originally posted by Digi
I dunno. Something like "Rape culture" is shock language that's probably pretty hard to empirically define and prove/disprove. But like, on a more practical level, every one of my female friends either owns mace, won't go walking at night, will asked to be accompanied out of the bar until their Uber arrives, etc. I'll often get antsy in the evenings and will go running (sometimes in the dark). I don't have a concept of what it's like to NOT feel safe doing that. It would be a loss of freedom that - on the whole - would definitely feel...uncomfortable. So I try not to judge too harshly when I can 100% see a difference in everyday life between men and women like that.

It's not a justification for hatred toward a broad group of people, but it's reason enough to try to stay aware of the ways in which gender informs freedoms.

I think the problem most proponents of the idea of a rape culture seem to have is that they overlook the fact that when dealing with a population of 357 million even if only half of a single percent of the population were sexual predators it would still mean that there were 1,750,000 really nasty guys that women needed to be worried about. A large number of ne'er do wells's isn't reflective of an actual "rape culture" though simply a LARGE culture. Our culture as a whole absolutely abhors rapists which is why so many get angry when the term "rape culture" starts getting thrown around and people start making the accusation that others support such a thing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't take it personal, but I can't take the MRA (men's rights activism) stuff and related stuff seriously. Like I can't help but laugh when white hetero males (I know, not you) complain how no one has it harder than them in America. The very 'snowflakery' they often accuse others of.

Similar when people complain that their Christianity is being attacked and repressed, when it's the prominent and undisputed dominant religion in this country and is so powerful it has its own rather massive lobby in our government trying to make laws based on it. Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc, can't say that.

But sure, I could have just ignored it and not responded with sarcasm, so my bad.