As for the final 2 eps. Eh. It was always going to be hard to wrap this up in a way that satisfied everyone. The way they defeat Chuck is bizarre, why didn't he see it coming?
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who did Sam end up having a kid with? Eileen? They couldn't bring her in for a final appearance? Or hell just show a picture of her and Sam on their mantle?
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Hey, it could be about Sam teaching his son to hunt. There is a whole life span to do of Sammy.I think it was meant to be Eileen, that's why her face was never shown. I did like Dean ended up appearing the the Harvelle roadhouse but wthout actually seeing Jo or Ellen is just doesn't have that big a impact.
Though we did finally get to see real Bobby again. That's the best thing about the episode. I knew they would die, I knew it would be on a normal hunt, but I think Swan Song had the better way. Dean living out his life. Sam should have been the one to die on a hunt. The beginning was fine, and the end was how it was always going to have to be, just after the hunt, just not very fond of.
The episode did seem to bring back Dean to how he was before he became all emo and sad. SO that was a plus but overall it was a lot less impactful because there were not the people that needed to be there.
After 15 years, I’m def. not gonna nitpick make up effects!
It wasn’t the ending I wanted, but it was better than some of the ones I’d imagined. And really, it kind of made sense.
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For Dean, beating Chuck was pretty much everything. Once done there was nothing left to obsess over. And while he might have been just fine if he’d lived, he might also have seen Sam eventually start a family, and become bitter and alone, a drunken mess who showed up at Sam’s occasionally to see his nephew and try to “toughen him up”, and who’d die after ****ing up a hunt and getting ppl killed instead of how he actually went out.
For Sam, the after hunting life was always an idea he carried around, something he’d wanted since he was a kid.
So yeah it sucks Dean got killed off but he went out in way better shape than he might have, and Sam missed him, but we all miss someone.
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Heaven
I enjoyed how Baby made it to
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Heaven w. Dean, and had its original KAZ 2Y5 plates, while back on earth Sam drove her w. the switched out plates they got way back in S2.
And yeah, that scene of Sam behind the wheel in the garage? Tear jerker.
The makeup was more so just funny. At one point they just gave Jared a wig with that had silver hair. Only on his deathbed did they add in a few wrinkles lol.
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Jack should have resurrected Dean. He deserved a shot at a family too and I can't believe Dean would be bitter if Sam got a family. Sam gets a shot at a happy life and Dean gets to...drive around in the impala for a bit lol. Even in heaven all Dean is able to do is wait for Sam. There was no "I'm gonna go see my mom and dad" or anything. Just "yeah, gonna do the thing I've literally done every day for the past 15 years".
And it's completely ridiculous Castiel is not featured even once in the series finale.
Eh, i get what you’re saying, but I’m still okay w. how things went down, and no way would Dean be bitter at Sam, he’d just be bitter. It’s how my head canon’s made peace w. Dean’s fate.
As for Dean’s waiting, it wasn’t long. We were told time works differently.
I figure it was just the one drive, and then bam, reuinon and off to see everyone.
The last episode really needed to have more than just a throwback to some random vampire chick. Sure we saw OG Bobby, which was amazing, but it really doesn't seem like a worthy finale.
Also... like IS Cas alive or dead? Cause Bobby says Cas helped make it, but was that just to how Cas 'raised' him, or like because he revived Cas and that was how they made heaven?
ALSO, this totally should have been a thing.
Originally posted by riv6672
Eh, i get what you’re saying, but I’m still okay w. how things went down, and no way would Dean be bitter at Sam, he’d just be bitter. It’s how my head canon’s made peace w. Dean’s fate.
As for Dean’s waiting, it wasn’t long. We were told time works differently.
I figure it was just the one drive, and then bam, reuinon and off to see everyone.
It was one drive, that is the point. I don't think it felt like decades for Dean, but his heaven was just driving until Sam died. Would have made more sense for him to be meeting with people who died and looking in on Sam occasionally and his family.
The last scene should have been Dean and Bobby chilling in the roadhouse with beers. Sam finally walks in, Bobby says "what took you so long?" and Dean tosses Sam a beer and says jerk. Sam replies b*tch. And the series ends.
That is how I would have done it. If it wasn't for covid there would be more people in the bar in the end, like Ellen, Joe, Ash, etc. But with covid they still had Bobby so they could have done my ending lol.
Originally posted by Kento
The last episode really needed to have more than just a throwback to some random vampire chick. Sure we saw OG Bobby, which was amazing, but it really doesn't seem like a worthy finale.Also... like IS Cas alive or dead? Cause Bobby says Cas helped make it, but was that just to how Cas 'raised' him, or like because he revived Cas and that was how they made heaven?
Depends on how you define alive. Cas was pulled out of the empty and is in heaven and helped Jack remake it so it's not like the matrix. Or well it is like the matrix, but a better version. Could he return to earth? Who knows, but he is definitely not in the empty anymore.
We know God can pull people out of the empty and thus Jack now could too. So getting Cas out is probably the first thing he did once he left Sam and Dean.
It was also funny at the end of ep 19 cuz they kept asking Jack if they'd see him again, as in...you know, hang out and have some beers. He kept talking about being inside the beer and being in the raindrops and all that. It was one big "I'm just not into you how do I tell you we won't be hanging out, if you wanna see me go check your morning dew or something".
I'll tell you though, as Jack was walking away and Sam says "Bye Jack" it was a gut punch.
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It was one drive, that is the point. I don't think it felt like decades for Dean, but his heaven was just driving until Sam died. Would have made more sense for him to be meeting with people who died and looking in on Sam occasionally and his family.The last scene should have been Dean and Bobby chilling in the roadhouse with beers. Sam finally walks in, Bobby says "what took you so long?" and Dean tosses Sam a beer and says jerk. Sam replies b*tch. And the series ends.
That is how I would have done it. If it wasn't for covid there would be more people in the bar in the end, like Ellen, Joe, Ash, etc. But with covid they still had Bobby so they could have done my ending lol.