Raped in prison

Started by Adam_PoE9 pages

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I mean I'm not one of the people who commented that and think revenge isn't moral, but wanting to stab someone who rapes you seems like a pretty natural response. Like "oooooh, someone would get really pissed off and violent if they got raped, they're masculinity must be so fragile if they feel that strongly against another man forcibly having sex with them!" That just makes no sense.

Just because you like dick up your ass doesn't mean any dude who has a violent reaction to being raped by another dude has a fragile sense of masculinity.

If you respond to assault with assault, then no, you do not. If you respond to assault with murder, then yes, you do.

Originally posted by Surtur
Also wait why is stabbing someone an over the top response to rape? Lol..

Because you are not stabbing him in self-defense, you are stabbing him in retaliation. You are responding to a non-life-threatening assault with murder, because your fragile masculinity got bruised.

Originally posted by Mindset
Shut yo bitcch ass up

^ lol

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Because you are not stabbing him in self-defense, you are stabbing him in retaliation. You are responding to a non-life-threatening assault with murder, because your fragile masculinity got bruised.

Or you could be preventing it from happening again, which can be argued as self-defense.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Because you are not stabbing him in self-defense, you are stabbing him in retaliation. You are responding to a non-life-threatening assault with murder, because your fragile masculinity got bruised.

Would you extend the same logic to a woman? “Oh, you stabbed the guy trying to rape you? You poor dear, your precious, fragile femininity must’ve really been bruised!”

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Because you are not stabbing him in self-defense, you are stabbing him in retaliation. You are responding to a non-life-threatening assault with murder, because your fragile masculinity got bruised.

Yeah I agree that revenge is not justifiable, I would even go so far as to consider a violent assault in retaliation immoral, but to reduce the suffering of a rape victim to "oh your fragile masculinity got bruised" is ****ing ridiculous.

Originally posted by Raisen
to most masculine men there is almost nothing that can be worse than being raped.

Thanks for proving my point.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah I agree that revenge is not justifiable, I would even go so far as to consider a violent assault in retaliation immoral, but to reduce the suffering of a rape victim to "oh your fragile masculinity got bruised" is ****ing ridiculous.

Sure it is. Just depends on your moral code.

Originally posted by socool8520
Sure it is. Just depends on your moral code.

I'm not a moral relativist so that doesn't fly with me.

Then I can see why you would think that way. I don't though

Originally posted by socool8520
Or you could be preventing it from happening again, which can be argued as self-defense.

Pre-emptive self-defense is what Anti-Fa believes.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Would you extend the same logic to a woman? “Oh, you stabbed the guy trying to rape you? You poor dear, your precious, fragile femininity must’ve really been bruised!”

Would you read the scenario described in the initial post and try again? We are not discussing using lethal force to stop a rape, we are talking about using lethal force to retaliate after a rape. Try to keep up.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah I agree that revenge is not justifiable, I would even go so far as to consider a violent assault in retaliation immoral, but to reduce the suffering of a rape victim to "oh your fragile masculinity got bruised" is ****ing ridiculous.

Who is discussing the suffering of the victim? This is a hypothetical scenario in which e-tough guys imagine all the violent things they would do to someone who sexually assaulted them, because their masculinity is so fragile that the idea of being raped is the worst possible thing they can imagine.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Pre-emptive self-defense is what Anti-Fa believes.

Who is discussing the suffering of the victim? This is a hypothetical scenario in which e-tough guys imagine all the violent things they would do to someone who sexually assaulted them, because their masculinity is so fragile that the idea of being raped is the worst possible thing they can imagine.

Except this pre-emptive self-defense would be justified as it had already happened once.

Just because they are "e-tough guys" doesn't mean they wouldn't suffer. It's dumb to take that out of the equation.

well it's clear you're biased so okay then.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

Would you read the scenario described in the initial post and try again? We are not discussing using lethal force to stop a rape, we are talking about using lethal force to retaliate after a rape. Try to keep up.

Your initial post didn’t make this clear. It gave me the impression that if you’re being raped, you need to shut up and take it and that an act of self-defense is proof of one’s “fragile masculinity”.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Pre-emptive self-defense is what Anti-Fa believes.

Would you read the scenario described in the initial post and try again? We are not discussing using lethal force to stop a rape, we are talking about using lethal force to retaliate after a rape. Try to keep up.

Who is discussing the suffering of the victim? This is a hypothetical scenario in which e-tough guys imagine all the violent things they would do to someone who sexually assaulted them, because their masculinity is so fragile that the idea of being raped is the worst possible thing they can imagine.

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POE's just fisting ya'll elbow deep...

Really? How?

By systematically tearing down all your points and defenses. He's not even using Crisco.

He isn't tearing down anything. It's subjective at to what's moral or not so you really can't "win" that argument. He also projects his own thoughts on the reasoning behind why someone would do that, but since you agree with him, then I guess you would see it that way.

I would think it's okay if a woman stabbed her rapist

Originally posted by socool8520
He isn't tearing down anything. It's subjective at to what's moral or not so you really can't "win" that argument. He also projects his own thoughts on the reasoning behind why someone would do that, but since you agree with him, then I guess you would see it that way.

Oh, he is. It's evident from the compete lack of countering on any of his points.

I agree with him now? Wasn't aware I had commented on my stance here. But if that's what you need to cope, I'm cool.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, he is. It's evident from the compete lack of countering on any of his points.

I agree with him now? Wasn't aware I had commented on my stance here. If that's what you need to cope, I'm cool.

No, you just don't seem to agree with the countering. There's a difference.

Do you? It seemed to me you did. If you didn't, then my bad.