Zoom World Tour. Review and correction.
This is actually one of the answers to
"Can Wonder Woman take one of Flash's near-infinite mass punches?
(aka Flash's I.M.P). Could she take several? And still be in fighting form?"
In point of fact, as shown earlier, Diana took 4 similar strikes from Zoom.
Wally famously launched a White Martian code-named Zum from Mount Rushmore or thereabouts to some place with Zebras.
The episode was well-drawn and given much attention.
Interestingly, Wally's fight with Zum lasted for several panels, definitely more than 3. Diana's fight with Zum? Not so well presented. Easy to overlook just how hard she was hit and how much distance she travelled.
Extraordinary damage soak, at least 2 of these punches demonstrate trams-oceanic travel.
Starting point:
Priscilla Rich's House. Somewhere, USA, presumably.
First strike.
Wondy is going, going, gone, until she reaches ...
Second strike.
Pyramids of Giza. Cairo, Egypt.
3rd strike
Great Wall of China. Beijing, China.
4th strike.
Themysciran temple. Mediterranean Sea (presumably near Greece).
Notice that, despite being on the receiving end of punches similar to what Zum endured, Wondy not only remains conscious, but also has a fairly casual conversation with the good Doctor.
The end result of this mini-world tour, however, is that Zoom is distracted by kicked debris, captured via literally BLINDFOLDED lasso roping by Diana, knocked senseless by one punch, tied up and flown away.
Page 2 Known Image/Issue Compilation
2.1 Wonder Woman Special #1
2.2. Wonder Woman #201, Volume 2
2.3. Wonder Woman #144, Volume 2
2.4. no image
2.5. Convergence Speedforce #2 of 2
2.6. Wonder Woman #201, Volume 2
2.7. Unknown. (Death stroke versus Flash, 1990s?)
2.8. Wonder Weapon Special #1
2.9. The Brave and the Bold #12, Volume 3(?) [Mark Waid]
2.10. JLA Classifed #17, April 2006
2.11a. Brave and the Bold #12
2.11b. JLA #89
2.11c. JLA Classified #17
2.12. Supergirl #4, Volume 3(?) [Jeph Loeb]
2.13. no image
2.14. JLA JSA Virtue and Vice, 2002
2.15. no image
2.16. Batman Confidential #53
2.17. no image
2.18. Wonder Woman #212, Volume 2
2.19. no image
2.20. Wonder Woman #212, Volume 2
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Wally ... against a more martial WW ...
I've seen Flashpoint make its way into this thread several times now.
I suppose it's being continually brought up to show Wonder Woman can be knocked out by a Flash character where such doesn't seem to have occurred pre-Flashpoint. Well, as I've stated before, I don't really have any problem entertaining the possibility of virtually any character getting knocked out.
It's just a matter of likelihood with me -- plausibility and probability.
Going by what's actually happened in the comic record, an in-character, pre-Flashpoint Diana should win a conventional engagement against an in-character pre-Flashpoint Wally West.
Having said that, I like a good comic book fight as much as the next fan, so I see no reason, having tracked that book down to make my reference logs more complete anyway, that we all shouldn't get to take a look at it.
From Convergence Speedforce #2 of 2, FLASHPOINT Wonder Woman versus Wally West Flash:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks Stilt.Yeah, it specifically says that he's faster, she's more skilled.
Blue, do you ever read your scans?
Clearly the scan says that he's faster. I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise.
However, you should not ignore that he says "what little advantage" he has in speed. That implies the gap between them is not that great. He also comments on how fast she is and says he didn't even see her move, all before he's hit with the grenades. I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise on this point either.
But that isn't the Diana in this thread though, right? Not sure what bearing it has on the larger debate.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Clearly the scan says that he's faster. I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise.
See blue's posts. He's arguing that there is no speed difference - if anything, WW is faster. You're responding to the wrong person here.
However, you should not ignore that he says "what little advantage" he has in speed. That implies the gap between them is not that great. He also comments on how fast she is and says he didn't even see her move, all before he's hit with the grenades. I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise on this point either.
All true, and I am NOT arguing that Flash is more skilled, or that WW is slow.
Merely that, as my very first post on this on page 1 says, Flash is faster and has the speedsteal.
But that isn't the Diana in this thread though, right? Not sure what bearing it has on the larger debate.
It was to show that Wally knows that Diana is a danger and would be afool to engage in fisticuffs with her.
Originally posted by Sasaraixxyou should not ignore that he says "what LITTLE advantage" he has in speed. That implies the gap between them is not that great. He also comments on how fast she is and says he didn't even see her move, all before he's hit with the grenades. I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise on this point either.
Bingo.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I've seen Flashpoint make its way into this thread several times now.
I suppose it's being continually brought up to show Wonder Woman can be knocked out by a Flash character where such doesn't seem to have occurred pre-Flashpoint. Well, as I've stated before, I don't really have any problem entertaining the possibility of virtually any character getting knocked out.
It's just a matter of likelihood with me -- plausibility and probability.
Going by what's actually happened in the comic record, an in-character, pre-Flashpoint Diana should win a conventional engagement against an in-character pre-Flashpoint Wally West.Having said that, I like a good comic book fight as much as the next fan, so I see no reason, having tracked that book down to make my reference logs more complete anyway, that we all shouldn't get to take a look at it.
From Convergence Speedforce #2 of 2, FLASHPOINT Wonder Woman versus Wally West Flash:
She won.
She could have cleaved Flash's face if she wanted to.
Flash had to sucker punch her.
