Originally posted by SurturDisagreed, but that's only because I disagree with capital punishment generally, even if I can understand your view on it too; my main issue with capital punishment is the idea of executing innocent people, so I can see why someone would advocate execution in a case like this.
Yeah, they need to just execute him.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he likely had a severe mental disorder, but it was also likely agitated by trumper "scapegoat-all-the-things and stay angry" culture. the pattern of extreme violence/terrorism/murder is clearly owned by white nationalists and they are quite obviously supportive of trump and vice-versa.
this is reasonable.
no need to blame trump for this tho.
Originally posted by Scribble
Disagreed, but that's only because I disagree with capital punishment generally, even if I can understand your view on it too; my main issue with capital punishment is the idea of executing innocent people, so I can see why someone would advocate execution in a case like this.
I understand your position. While I am for capital punishment, I would only push for it if the evidence is overwhelming. In this case, it seems to be pretty open and shut.
Originally posted by Raisen
this is reasonable.no need to blame trump for this tho.
i do partially blame him. same as i blame alex jones for setting off that sandy hook gunman. they manipulate people to hate and scapegoat, which does seem to set off people with mental illness and extremist tendencies. furthermore he did nothing to discourage white supremacy and even defended it. sorry, but he played his part and continues to.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i do partially blame him. same as i blame alex jones for setting off that sandy hook gunman. they manipulate people to hate and scapegoat, which does seem to set off people with mental illness and extremist tendencies. furthermore he did nothing to discourage white supremacy and even defended it. sorry, but he played his part and continues to.
Hasn't Trump called out White supremacists and stated that he doesn't support it?
Originally posted by Scribble
Disagreed, but that's only because I disagree with capital punishment generally, even if I can understand your view on it too; my main issue with capital punishment is the idea of executing innocent people, so I can see why someone would advocate execution in a case like this.
I don't want innocents executed either and I would be in favor of more stringent standards of evidence before we execute someone.
But yeah as you said, in a case like this...it seems we already know for sure the guy did it. They should just execute him.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i do partially blame him. same as i blame alex jones for setting off that sandy hook gunman. they manipulate people to hate and scapegoat, which does seem to set off people with mental illness and extremist tendencies. furthermore he did nothing to discourage white supremacy and even defended it. sorry, but he played his part and continues to.
trump called them out. for his haters he didn't do it fast enough. I don't really have an opinion on that matter.
as far as the manipulation...yeah it happens from all sides. all sides are being manipulated. I don't believe in silencing people tho. there's been crazies since the beginning of time. if someone is pushing for violence then yes...they need to be shut down.
this is a case of a weirdo shut in going downs over insane shiit
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"some very fine people on both sides". he never condemned neo-nazi's directly and you cannot produce a single quote to prove he did. now please make a valid point or shut up.
"shut up"?
whatever dude. you don't want to hear any valid points. you have you mind made up and will invalidate anything said that doesn't agree with you. I've agreed with you and have been objective. I see that you are unwilling to do the same
"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said at the White House.
Originally posted by socool8520
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-white-supremacists-racist-violence-after-criticism.html"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said at the White House.
that was the only time he addressed it and then he immediately negated it by defending them.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no he really didn't. made some halfass attempt and then came back the next day to backpeddle and defend them. google "some very fine people on both sides"
Originally posted by Robtard
Do we not also blame the Islamic leaders that work up and hype the unstable Muslims to go out and commit atrocities or do we just blame the crazies that commit the acts?
yep. we blame the dudes who deliberately say infi dels should die.
we should also blame the neo dudes who do the same.
but who is doing this?
Originally posted by Robtard
Do we not also blame the Islamic leaders that work up and hype the unstable Muslims to go out and commit atrocities or do we just blame the crazies that commit the acts?
they usually state that their intent was to do this in the name of their Faith. Had this dude said I killed him for Trump or because he questioned my faith in Trump, then I could see your point.