Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that was the only time he addressed it and then he immediately negated it by defending them.
Point is he addressed it. Specifically. You don't have to do it more than once to be sincere. Also, he didn't defend them so much as denounce both sides for violence. That's not the same thing.
Originally posted by socool8520
they usually state that their intent was to do this in the name of their Faith. Had this dude said I killed him for Trump or because he questioned my faith in Trump, then I could see your point.
Originally posted by Raisen
yep. we blame the dudes who deliberately say infi dels should die.we should also blame the neo dudes who do the same.
but who is doing this?
My point was: that if you stir some yahoos up and they act out, you're also to blame in part. Sure you didn't kill someone, but you're also responsible for your words, especially if you have a voice and platform, could even say, the greater voice/platform you have, the more responsible you are.
Originally posted by socool8520
they usually state that their intent was to do this in the name of their Faith. Had this dude said I killed him for Trump or because he questioned my faith in Trump, then I could see your point.
Originally posted by Robtard
My point was: that if you stir some yahoos up and they act out, you're also to blame in part. Sure you didn't kill someone, but you're also responsible for your words, especially if you have a voice and platform, could even say, the greater voice/platform you have, the more responsible you are.
ok. so who do you blame for this and what did they do to deserve this blame?
Originally posted by socool8520
Point is he addressed it. Specifically. You don't have to do it more than once to be sincere. Also, he didn't defend them so much as denounce both sides for violence. That's not the same thing.
no, he actually suggested that there was some "very fine" neo-nazis and as a whole they were just as bad as all the anti-protestors (most of whom were peaceful).
i know it seems unbelievable but he actually did just that. not in the mood to requote him over and over, so take that truth or leave it where you found it. *shrug*
Originally posted by Robtard
My point was: that if you stir some yahoos up and they act out, you're also to blame in part. Sure you didn't kill someone, but you're also responsible for your words, especially if you have a voice and platform, could even say, the greater voice/platform you have, the more responsible you are.
Yes, but if we go that route, we can just be laying the blame on anyone or anything. He may have played too much GTA, he may have listened to too much NWA, etc.
Yes, Trump says dumb shit, but any rational person shouldn't go off the deep end because of it.
Originally posted by socool8520As much as I despise trump I agree with this. Too much of a slippery slope to blame someone else because a nut went off the deep end.
Yes, but if we go that route, we can just be laying the blame on anyone or anything. He may have played too much GTA, he may have listened to too much NWA, etc.Yes, Trump says dumb shit, but any rational person shouldn't go off the deep end because of it.
Originally posted by socool8520
Yes, but if we go that route, we can just be laying the blame on anyone or anything. He may have played too much GTA, he may have listened to too much NWA, etc.Yes, Trump says dumb shit, but any rational person shouldn't go off the deep end because of it.
Not being held responsible for your own actions is one of the motto's of the Left.
Originally posted by socool8520
Yes, but if we go that route, we can just be laying the blame on anyone or anything. He may have played too much GTA, he may have listened to too much NWA, etc.Yes, Trump says dumb shit, but any rational person shouldn't go off the deep end because of it.
Who says these people are rational? I'd say strapping a bomb to your chest or driving your car into people isn't being rational.
And people in positions of power need to be held accountable when they say "dumb shit", if it stirs irrational types into shit actions. The higher power/position, the more accountable. eg No one's saying Alex Jones is the same as a murderer, but he's a shitlord who needs to watch what he says because he has a large audience and they happen to be mostly impressionable retards
Originally posted by Robtard
Who says these people are rational? I'd say strapping a bomb to your chest or driving your car into people isn't being rational.And people in positions of power need to be held accountable when they say "dumb shit", if it stirs irrational types into shit actions. The higher power/position, the more accountable. eg No one's saying Alex Jones is the same as a murderer, but he's a shitlord who needs to watch what he says
Once we get Robbie to sign this it will be official.
Originally posted by Robtard
Who says these people are rational? I'd say strapping a bomb to your chest or driving your car into people isn't being rational.And people in positions of power need to be held accountable when they say "dumb shit", if it stirs irrational types into shit actions. The higher power/position, the more accountable. eg No one's saying Alex Jones is the same as a murderer, but he's a shitlord who needs to watch what he says because he has a large audience and they happen to be mostly impressionable retards
Agreed, which is why I don't lump those psychos in with all other Muslims.
It's the whole freedom of speech thing man. You can say what you feel. The hope is some idiot doesn't take it to heart and go murder in your name. As long as you're not actively trying to incite violence or something, you can pretty much say whatever you want. I would hope that elected officials would have more tact/professionalism, but apparently that's not the case.
Besides, had the article not said this dude was a Trump Supporter, nobody would have even alluded to the fact. It actually takes away from the tragedy that this woman basically lost a Husband and a Son due to his mental issues.
Originally posted by socool8520
Agreed, which is why I don't lump those psychos in with all other Muslims.It's the whole freedom of speech thing man. You can say what you feel. The hope is some idiot doesn't take it to heart and go murder in your name. As long as you're not actively trying to incite violence or something, you can pretty much say whatever you want. I would hope that elected officials would have more tact/professionalism, but apparently that's not the case.
Besides, had the article not said this dude was a Trump Supporter, nobody would have even alluded to the fact. It actually takes away from the tragedy that this woman basically lost a Husband and a Son due to his mental issues.
Basically what I'm talking about, if you have a strong voice, you choose your words wisely. Random idiot on Youtube, whatever. President of a country, pick your words wisely.
Is being Alt-Right a mental illness now? Hmmm....