Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If someone can counter phasing from Shadowcat, can they counter phasing from Vision? If they can counter phasing from Ghost Soldier, can they counter phasing from Silver Surfer?If they can counter energy from GLs, can they counter energy from the Power Cosmic?
And it is Final Crisis #7.
Is this saying he was weakened?
Also, there's something before this where it was mentioned Wonder Woman blunding him, chaining him with the lasso? Was Darkseid weakened?
Originally posted by carver9
That happened like 7 pages before what I mentioned. 😂
Originally posted by carver9
Erased from the panel? And he calls me an idiot. 😆Do you know what it means to be erased from EXISTENCE? There's a huge difference between being killed and being erased from existence, abhigail.
Originally posted by h1a8
So you see Surfer fighting the majority of the time scanning Superman for weaknesses and trying to exploit the red solar radiation weakness?Ok. Fair game.
Superman is far faster than Surfer in combat (see the time stop feat).
Superman has the ability to phase through energy as well as physical attacks IN BATTLE and in real time.Superman has the strength to kill or ko Surfer in a few blows.
Superman's HV is at least thousands of times hotter the core of the Sun.
Surfer never experienced such temperatures.
The Surfer doesn’t have to scan for weaknesses he has cosmic awareness. He’d defeat everyone mentioned here. He told Gladiator that he knew his weakness, he drainex the gamma energy from the Hulk, etc. No one seems to remember that. People only want to show the lows on the character that they vehemently dislike while ignoring their average and high showings, but will then neglect to show the lows of the character that they like. Disingenuous ? Of course and if not it is the first thing that comes to mind.
The Surfer using his powers to their fullest defeats every single one on the list. Oh, wait he can’t but everyone on the list can? When it’s Superman vs Juggernaut no one forgets all of the feats and powers that he has.
Unlike the vast majority he’d have intimate knowledge of them before the bell even rings. Cosmic Awareness. Superman would be in the most trouble because he has no resistance to the Surfer producing the correct Krytonite and not some useless green rock that Superman gets to waive off, he can create red solar radiation, gene hack, and do this while intangible. He does not have to touch his opponent either, his powers work remotely.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer doesn’t have to scan for weaknesses he has cosmic awareness. He’d defeat everyone mentioned here. He told Gladiator that he knew his weakness, he drainex the gamma energy from the Hulk, etc. No one seems to remember that. People only want to show the lows on the character that they vehemently dislike while ignoring their average and high showings, but will then neglect to show the lows of the character that they like. Disingenuous ? Of course and if not it is the first thing that comes to mind.The Surfer using his powers to their fullest defeats every single one on the list. Oh, wait he can’t but everyone on the list can? When it’s Superman vs Juggernaut no one forgets all of the feats and powers that he has.
Unlike the vast majority he’d have intimate knowledge of them before the bell even rings. Cosmic Awareness. Superman would be in the most trouble because he has no resistance to the Surfer producing the correct Krytonite and not some useless green rock that Superman gets to waive off, he can create red solar radiation, gene hack, and do this while intangible. He does not have to touch his opponent either, his powers work remotely.
*Superman uses speed*
"OMG DS, you can't just argue powerset! Superman doesn't use speed in his fights, he gets tagged by slower people in comics all the time! He gets lonely/bored/sad and wants to be hit, even though he has to wait what would be the equivalent of years for the punches to land!!!
*Also, Surfer gets to go intangible and hack genes and throw multiple black holes at FTL speeds while turning into the Kryptonite Surfer and shooting red sun rads out of his bumhole and creating clones of himself that time travel and learn magic from Dr Strange*
I mean, at this stage, why not just argue that Surfer hacks himself, turns into Doomsday, accelerates his own evolution by a factor of 1000x, AND then clones himself to learn magic, so Superman has to fight 1 billion magical Doomsdays?
Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer doesn’t have to scan for weaknesses he has cosmic awareness. He’d defeat everyone mentioned here. He told Gladiator that he knew his weakness, he drainex the gamma energy from the Hulk, etc. No one seems to remember that. People only want to show the lows on the character that they vehemently dislike while ignoring their average and high showings, but will then neglect to show the lows of the character that they like. Disingenuous ? Of course and if not it is the first thing that comes to mind.The Surfer using his powers to their fullest defeats every single one on the list. Oh, wait he can’t but everyone on the list can? When it’s Superman vs Juggernaut no one forgets all of the feats and powers that he has.
Unlike the vast majority he’d have intimate knowledge of them before the bell even rings. Cosmic Awareness. Superman would be in the most trouble because he has no resistance to the Surfer producing the correct Krytonite and not some useless green rock that Superman gets to waive off, he can create red solar radiation, gene hack, and do this while intangible. He does not have to touch his opponent either, his powers work remotely.
Originally posted by Juntai
Does Wolverine have cosmic awareness because he knew Strontians (in this case, Kid Gladiator) are weak to having their ribs dislocated with a pressure point poke?Does Super Skrull have cosmic awareness because he knew the radiation weakness too?
Does Hulk have cosmic awareness because he knew the radiation weakness of Gladiator as well?
Do we have a shred a proof that Surfer summoned this knowledge out of thin air with a power he has? Or do you think it’s maybe it’s because he’s been traveling the cosmos so long and encountered them before?
And yet, using all these abilities and tactic in manners he’s never really shown, and it still relies on Superman not just being a 1000 times more powerful (by feats and enemies of quality he’s actually beaten) and just absolutely railroading him.
We have to assume a Superman who’s holding back and fighting stupid to this forum version of Surfer just to suppose he might be able to win.
Says a lot.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're aware of the fact that time was broken and events happened non-sequentially? Too much for you?
Yes, erased from the panel itself. You see his body anywhere after he was erased?
No, thats not what it means. If youre erased from existense, that means you never existed which also includes erased from reality, which also includes you being erased from everyone's memory. Being killed and being erased from existence is two different things.
Originally posted by carver9
No, thats not what it means. If youre erased from existense, that means you never existed which also includes erased from reality, which also includes you being erased from everyone's memory. Being killed and being erased from existence is two different things.