How many wins can Silver Surfer Get (DC)

Surfer keep making claims they cant remotely back up, like Surfer even being competitive with Superman who outperforms him 3/4 times in directcomparative showings( and even then, Surfer outperfomred a weaker Superman against an inferior Orion to the post Byrne era).

It's laughable how desperate they have to lie to themselves.

He pulls a majority against all of them.

Originally posted by carver9
He pulls a majority against all of them.

Prove that statement on the merits, without ignoring context, with evidence.

I'll wait.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope he's just tailor made to beat Supes in part because of yes... weakness exploitation.

J'onn's got an even more exploitable weakness than Supes and Surfer has a resistance against TP.

Lobo's got no inherent weakness, a killer healing factor, and is absolutely bloodthirsty... it makes total sense that he'd do better than Supes or WW

Ok. Fair game.

Superman is far faster than Surfer in combat (see the time stop feat).
Superman has the ability to phase through energy as well as physical attacks IN BATTLE and in real time.

Superman has the strength to kill or ko Surfer in a few blows.
Superman's HV is at least thousands of times hotter the core of the Sun.
Surfer never experienced such temperatures.

This weakness exploitation argument....

I mean, being punched in the face is also a weakness.

Bump

Originally posted by Braniac 5.0
How many wins out of ten

1. Superman
2. Orion
3. Captain Marvel
4. Lobo
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Captain Atom
7. Wonder Woman
8. Bizzaro

1. 0 if Superman knows what he can do (red solar radiation) and 3 if Superman does not know.

2. 8-10

3. 4

4. 10 due to bfr

5. 10

6. 10

7. 0

8. 7

Bump

Bump.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has straight up 4d vision.

https://imgur.com/a/QfD78

I'll start every thread with that one, thanks Leo.

Superman sees the future by his 4D vision and blitzes Surfer into unconsciousness in the first attosecond.

This is fun.

Or sings him out of existence.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or sings him out of existence.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or sings him out of existence.

He can't be sung out of existence. Surfer went through the door, something that's primary goal IS to wipe you from existence and it didn't succeed. Ongoing attack and he endured it. He would be just fine with Superman attempting to do this...

So you accept high-end showings as Surfer's average, then?

That Zone doesn't look like anyone is singing, though. Try harder.

Originally posted by carver9
He can't be sung out of existence. Surfer went through the door, something that's primary goal IS to wipe you from existence and it didn't succeed. Ongoing attack and he endured it. He would be just fine with Superman attempting to do this...

Superman erased Darkseid from existence, who had become everything in the entire Multiverse.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you accept high-end showings as Surfer's average, then?

That Zone doesn't look like anyone is singing, though. Try harder.

It shows Surfer cannot exist as an energy being, I guess 👆 because if he was converted, then he would cease to exist.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It shows Surfer cannot exist as an energy being, I guess 👆 because if he was converted, then he would cease to exist.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RUmbgD97DB0/VoTaq6Ug7fI/AAAAAAAAT-s/5a0WnODHHig/s1600-Ic42/RCO026.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QPiv9Pu66UQ/VoTara6ljeI/AAAAAAAAT-s/Kj2bM7GT5ag/s1600-Ic42/RCO028.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T9miUYR6Q2E/VoTaraNjIsI/AAAAAAAAT-s/aAEMsbo20CE/s1600-Ic42/RCO029.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a8QjrwZh_uE/VoTarxM44dI/AAAAAAAAT-4/-9tlmIMJYNU/s1600-Ic42/RCO032.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cZx1VmXEuJg/VoTarw1ZppI/AAAAAAAAT-s/5xBp0tU9UYs/s1600-Ic42/RCO033.jpg

Muh existence erasure resistance lol

Cheeky Carver. I think he's actually saving the respect thread scans to his phone, and uploading them so it looks like his own.

Nothing wrong with that, makes the scans look better sometimes. Just as long as context isn't missed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It shows Surfer cannot exist as an energy being, I guess 👆 because if he was converted, then he would cease to exist.

He survived. It's literally states that his existence was being tugged at and he overcame it.

Originally posted by carver9
He survived. It's literally states that his existence was being tugged at and he overcame it.

He was getting converted into light and overcome it. It's not existence erasure, it's transmutation resistance.