Spiderman, Superman or Captain America

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Re: Re: Spiderman, Superman or Captain America

Originally posted by Damborgson
Of their own free will?

Captain
Spiderman
Superman

In order of least to most likely.

They've all had their dark moments, but I don't see Injustice as being unrealistic at all for Superman.

Captain crossed into a villainous line during the first civil war a bit.

Spiderman can be pretty dark, and his family could be used against him.

I guess you have a point here; he promised to come back and kill Fisk if May died, iirc. There's still the matter of whether or not he would have gone through with it...it could have been a play to get Fisk to pull some strings on her behalf or something. But as it stands, it's a reasonable instance to mention.

There's also that deal with Mephisto. Sure,it was for a good purpose, but he effectively killed off all the happiness MJ and he had together.

Interesting that all of Bluewater's examples involve alt. Supermen, or mind control.

And even with mind control, it's interesting how Sacrifice was brought up:
https://m.imgur.com/Y1oio8F

And Neron, THE Devil in DC who does deals all the time:

https://m.imgur.com/ir2HgX2

Re: Re: Spiderman, Superman or Captain America

Originally posted by Damborgson
Of their own free will?

Captain
Spiderman
Superman

In order of least to most likely.

They've all had their dark moments, but I don't see Injustice as being unrealistic at all for Superman.

Captain crossed into a villainous line during the first civil war a bit.

Spiderman can be pretty dark, and his family could be used against him.

I agree with you and most others on this thread that superman definitely has the most potential to be a piece of shiit.

good post bro

The character with the least chances is not on this list.

Batman.

Seriously, in nearly every "apocolyptic" scenerio or "dirtbag universe", it's a Batman fighting the good fight.

1. Injustice

2. Superman Red

3. Justice Lords

4. Alternate evil universe made by Dr. Destiny that I'm not sure even existed.

The exception is All Star Batman and Robin, but there he's less evil and more merely insane.

Current Cuck Lord Spider-Man is the least likely to become a villain. Unless his GF does it for him that is..

Superman isnt Human and Far more powerful than any human even most Superheros. He is the most likely to go evil

The Least likely to go evil in all of comics, Captain Marvel

Originally posted by spetznaz
Least: Captain America. Yes, I know how recent adaptations have made Steve many things, but his origin story (if that hasn’t been changed too) was of a good hearted but weak young man striving to make a difference. He decided to serve in the only way he could, but literally offering himself. While recent years have changed many things, his original characterization was as far from evil/villainy as one could get.

Spider-Man: Peter is similar to Steve, just a bit more impulsive. Also a good cat that would require a significant push to make evil. He has faced real reasons and tragedies that would make lesser men turn, but he has still remained largely true.

Superman: This is the one character of the three that has the greatest potential for evil. For one, he is not even human ...he merely looks like one, but is anything but. There is something frightfully deceptive in that. He has powers beyond those of most heroes, and it is easy to see how he can decide to make thins ‘better.’ He could go to space, float about listening to conversations with his super hearing (hey ...if a man can fly a man can ‘hear’ in the vacuum of space), seeing with his super sight, and lobotomize ‘undesirables’ with his heat vision. He has great power, but he was born with it. It was not a sacrifice he made like Steve (sacrifice because the experiment could have gone wrong), and it wasn’t thrust on him through an accident like Peter. He was literally born an ‘ubermensch.’ It is only by fortune and chance that he was found by the Kents. Had the rocket landed in Nazi Germany (or as in Red Son, the Soviet Union, he would have been something totally different).

Lex Luthor is right. Superman is an absolute monster, and just because he has not turned does not mean he will not. It is almost a given. After all, he is a man-child with the powers of a small god....and like a kid with a termitarium, it is only a matter of time before he takes his magnifying glass and decides to crispy-crisp some insects.

Superman, by far, is the most evil thing of the three. He just has not turned ...yet.

this cept spidey and cap are tied with the least likely.. honestly if either cap or spiderman have a relationship like supes with lois/jon.. i dont see them turning..

Re: Re: Re: Spiderman, Superman or Captain America

Originally posted by cdtm
Alternate Superman is alternate Superman.

In the mainstream, Eclipso couldn't even touch him with his rage amping, Superman had to allow him to take over. Manchester Black forced him through an Injustice scenerio, and he refused to kill Black.

Well Injustice isn't as cut and dry as turning him bad on the spot. From Supermans perspective, especially near the end of year 1, he was not the bad guy.

He was doing this to prevent anyone suffering like he did again.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Well Injustice isn't as cut and dry as turning him bad on the spot. From Supermans perspective, especially near the end of year 1, he was not the bad guy.

He was doing this to prevent anyone suffering like he did again.

"our" Superman would never do the things Injustice Superman did. Not a chance.

I knows he's Superman, and that brings with him qualities beyond any man.

But you dont think there's a small chance he might go off the deep end if he killed his pregnant wife and annihilated his own city all because his friend didnt put the animal that manipulated him into doing it,down,when,he,had,the,chance? Not even a little ?

In the slow fade fashion that overtook Injustice Superman no less?

Originally posted by Damborgson
I knows he's Superman, and that brings with him qualities beyond any man.

But you dont think there's a small chance he might go off the deep end if he killed his pregnant wife and annihilated his own city all because his friend didnt put the animal that manipulated him into doing it,down,when,he,had,the,chance? Not even a little ?

In the slow fade fashion that overtook Injustice Superman no less?

That's exactly what Maxwell Lord and Manchester Black did. And Superman rejected it.

So no, there's actually no chance of it happening.

Superman is not human hence he has the least chances of going evil.

You logic is flawed. 😒

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's exactly what Maxwell Lord and Manchester Black did. And Superman rejected it.

So no, there's actually no chance of it happening.

Yep. 👆

Black in particular I can see being the inspiration for Injustice by some writer who read John's Superman (Pretty sure Ending Battle was Johns early work) and said "Too much, even Superman should have a breaking point."

May even be Johns himself, didn't he work on the game?

Originally posted by Damborgson
I knows he's Superman, and that brings with him qualities beyond any man.

But you dont think there's a small chance he might go off the deep end if he killed his pregnant wife and annihilated his own city all because his friend didnt put the animal that manipulated him into doing it,down,when,he,had,the,chance? Not even a little ?

In the slow fade fashion that overtook Injustice Superman no less?

Basically what DS said. Shit like this has been tried before; it's not some new concept. And he came through it, because that's one of the pillars of the character.

Can someone post the scans for me please?

Originally posted by Bentley
Superman is not human hence he has the least chances of going evil.

Wrong. Superman is human, and always has been. that's the point of the character's concept. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand the character. period.

I've already posted the Maxwell Lord scan. The rest of the story you've seen already, obv.

Chester:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've already posted the Maxwell Lord scan. The rest of the story you've seen already, obv.

No, I haven't. Ill have to read it.

But just from the scan you posted, It's not on a comparable level. If I'm wrong though show me, I'm open to discussion on it of course.