Oh sorry. It's the Sacrifice storyline.....where Maxwell Lord convinces Superman that WW is Doomsday, and has just killed Lois Lane. He goes apeshit and attacks WW.
The scans have been posted loads on the forums, so was surprised you hadn't seen them is all.
The Manchester Black scan was a separate storyline. He also mind controlled Superman into thinking he had just killed Lois, and was standing over her corpse. He wanted Superman to snap and kill him.
Superman didn't, and Chester gave up.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh sorry. It's the Sacrifice storyline.....where Maxwell Lord convinces Superman that WW is Doomsday, and has just killed Lois Lane. He goes apeshit and attacks WW.The scans have been posted loads on the forums, so was surprised you hadn't seen them is all.
The Manchester Black scan was a separate storyline. He also mind controlled Superman into thinking he had just killed Lois, and was standing over her corpse. He wanted Superman to snap and kill him.
Superman didn't, and Chester gave up.
Oh those? Sorry, brain fart. Yes ive seen those, but from my understanding Superman was actively trying to kill Wonder Woman.
Yeah, it speaks volumes of Supermans character. But its not comparable.
Superman actually killed Lois in Injustice. While pregnant. And then he popped his own city. And he STILL held on to his humanity for quite some time after he killed Joker. But he lost it in the end, and Chester showing him a dead Lois is not on the same level of hell.
My list is
Cap
Spidey
Superman
Cap has killed in war situations but it holds very little to any weight to becoming bad (look at Logan).
Superman and Spidey can lose it when the one(s) they love the most are brutally tortured and murdered in front of them and the offender gets away.
Cap would stay mostly true in that situation (also he isn’t attached to a particular person as much as the other two are). At worst, he would become similar to Logan but lesser. Logan will always be good.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh those? Sorry, brain fart. Yes ive seen those, but from my understanding Superman was actively trying to kill Wonder Woman.Yeah, it speaks volumes of Supermans character. But its not comparable.
Superman actually killed Lois in Injustice. While pregnant. And then he popped his own city. And he STILL held on to his humanity for quite some time after he killed Joker. But he lost it in the end, and Chester showing him a dead Lois is not on the same level of hell.
It took Max years to subvert it:
Killing again would shatter Superman's mind, that's how strong his aversion to killing is.
So yeah, Injustice type scenarios aren't quite as likely in mainstream DCU. I mean of course, you could argue that Injustice Superman is completely mad, but his actions aren't like that.
Furthermore, he doesn't see Doomsday as a person. Just an animal that needs to be put down:
So using the Sacrifice storyline as proof that he can easily go evil, is not quite right - any more than arguing that a vet who puts a rabid dog down is evil.
Realistically from a real world standpoint, Supes and Spidey could never become full on villains permanently because they're both cash cows and their companies probably couldn't afford to lose money from the multiple books both star in.
In universe, Supes is the least likely to switch from mind control, Spidey is the least likely to switch due to just getting fed up with everything over time, and Cap is the least likely to "just snap" Injustice style.
The Spider-Man comic titled "who am I?" Proves without a doubt that spidey is just inherently good. But having uncle Ben, aunt may some good moral support period does play a factor. This is cause there are alternate versions like a Spider-Man from another universe that has been trained to kill by wolverine.
