Originally posted by krisblaze
Laser beams have no temperature.
Are you sure?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_beam_welding
What does that have to do with whether or not Surfer can hurt Superman?
There is a separate thread for that.
Well yes, but nobody explained that to Goober.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Personal attacks don't excuse your ignorance. Thanos has and always will be ahead of Superman. Thanos is the kind of massive threat super teams were formed to combat. Simple logic exposes the futility of your asinine stance.
Seconded. The insults are a bit ridiculous.
If this couln't put him down, SS blasts won't hurt him much. This overly ridiculous feat showcased that current Superman would tank every blasts the DB Supercast can dish out at him and counter it with his HV, so lol at SS blasts...
I still don't get how something like this made it into a comic.
Originally posted by Philosophía
It's easy to miss this, due to the fact that it's not put an emphasis on, but an astronomical durability feat.For reference, Darkseid's sum is at this point:
- Anti-Life Equation, which when inside Steve, the eye beams have one-shotted Mobius [abstract-level power]:
- Omega Effect, which Luthor has matched Mobius output:
- All of the Gods that the Justice League got possessed by
[Shazam is of importance, since he had this overkill:
S – S’ivaa
H – H’ronmeer
A – Anapel
Z – Zonuz
A – Ate
M – Mamaragan]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5661/23135259745_a5ddcff676_o.jpg
What happens when Darkseid's attack is directed at the league?
Superman shields everybody by tanking his attack [penultimate panel]:Yeah...
This is why, imo, we should be careful comparing heroes from different comic universes. Not only is there the writer's intent for a particular story, but how the hero measures up in their respective universe. Superman is not just DC's flagship character, he is the icon of the whole superhero genre. He is supposed to always save the day. What other hero, eg, would warrant the "Thought Robot" treatment?
Surfer is not on this scale. First off, he is not even an A-list character in Marvel (let alone flagship), and stories about him rarely focus on his sheer brute power. Surfer is essentially a philosophical mouthpiece (why Stan Lee favors him), thus writers are not as *inspired* to take him to No-Other-Hero-Could-Do-This limits. I'm not even sure who Marvel's entry would be in this category. Sentry? WBH? But even then, these two don't have the inspirational aura Superman has. That would probably go to Captain America, and he, certainly, doesn't have that level of brute power.
This is why I go by averages + a gut-feeling when making such comparisons. Surfer and Superman can hurt each other.
I thought he was a literal puppet as explained in the book through their connection from the ritual.
It was shown multiple times how he reacted like a puppet throughout.
Pretty sure the act of Barda blocking Grail's omegas halted baby ds's attack on the JL.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35657962/Justice_League_2011-_050-026.jpg.html
Or when he staggered the exact same way when Grail staggered from Barda's attack.
There's also that panel where his body is in a similar pose to Grail's as she was getting kicked by Wondy.
Also check out the part where DS has his body in the same exact position when Wondy had Grail trapped with the lasso and her omegas were hitting Myrinnas shield. DS is seen with the same body positioning while his omegas meet calrk's hv.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I thought he was a literal puppet as explained in the book through their connection from the ritual.It was shown multiple times how he reacted like a puppet throughout.
Pretty sure the act of Barda blocking Grail's omegas halted baby ds's attack on the JL.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35657962/Justice_League_2011-_050-026.jpg.htmlOr when he staggered the exact same way when Grail staggered from Barda's attack.
There's also that panel where his body is in a similar pose to Grail's as she was getting kicked by Wondy.
Also check out the part where DS has his body in the same exact position when Wondy had Grail trapped with the lasso and her omegas were hitting Myrinnas shield. DS is seen with the same body positioning while his omegas meet calrk's hv.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer was inside Galactus ship. It wasn't produced as a durability feat at all.
Hulk has been given formidability upgrade since then and he has said this in universe.Nowadays Hulk simply wades through Surfer's blasts.
Clearly Surfer cleaves to the outside of the ship.
