Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing about Surtur was fast. Hela had time to land her attacks and it didn't do much of anything to Surtur. Surtur was portrayed as too much for Hela. He proved that by defeated her.
Surtur was affected by her blows. A couple more of those and Surtur might be in trouble.
Again, Surtur attack was fast. The fight wasnt a long one.
Still we dont know if Hela died.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't see how! Hela took it against entire armies of Asgardian soldiers and Valkyries like nothing.Considering how fast Asgardians are, it's evident she is very fast.
Superman gets impaled. He doesn't have a clear advantage in speed to make it matter.
And Eomer took Hela's undead army like nothing as well, with 2 M-16 machine guns.
The elite undead Asgardians were vulnerable against machine guns and couldn't dodge it. Don't compare them with the Kryptonians.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yea. no proof, other than the multiple better durability feats in the Avengers.I asked for proof, not your massively biased opinion.
What feat again other than Thor and Cap+Bucky?
Superman showed much better strength and speed factor in MoS than any of the Asgardians. All Hela did was beating Asgardians and we saw even the undead elite Asgaridans were like garbage before
2 M16 machine guns.
Originally posted by SlowpokeKnians aka Superman passed out due to sucked strain holding up a tower.
And Eomer took Hela's undead army like nothing as well, with 2 M-16 machine guns.The elite undead Asgardians were vulnerable against machine guns and couldn't dodge it. Don't compare them with the Kryptonians.
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Weak.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
What feat again other than Thor and Cap+Bucky?Superman showed much better strength and speed factor in MoS than any of the Asgardians. All Hela did was beating Asgardians and we saw even the undead elite Asgaridans were like garbage before
2 M16 machine guns.
If you had seen the movie you wouldn't have to ask what feats, so if you'll admit to not having seen the movie, I'll explain what feats I'm talking about in detail.
Again, I didn't ask for your opinion. I asked for proof that Superman could keep his balance in a spinning object.
Dead Asgardians that had been decomposing for at least 1,000 years.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If you had seen the movie you wouldn't have to ask what feats, so if you'll admit to not having seen the movie, I'll explain what feats I'm talking about in detail.Again, I didn't ask for your opinion. I asked for proof that Superman could keep his balance in a spinning object.
Dead Asgardians that had been decomposing for at least 1,000 years.
I've seen it for a couple times. I don't see a big difference between Iron Man's suit durability other than the scene against Thor/Cap+Bucky.
He was able to keep in shape in very very bad environment, why would he have trouble to simply fly out of a cage.
These Asgardians were the elite soldiers died in the conquest of Asgard, they were obviously very stronger, quite a few Asgardian soldiers were killed by them, even Heimdall was almost killed by a couple of them. The Asgardians were nowhere close to the Kryptonians, who could take on heavy air+land forces with ease.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
They were the veteran elites who followed Odin and Hela to conquer the world. Obviously they were stronger than average Asgardian soldiers, even Heimdall was almost killed by a couple of them.
No! They are stupid and weaker. Like Zombies.
They don't show the kind of feats Asgardians like Lady Sif, or Thor's Gang did. Also a normal machine gun wouldn't pose a threat to a normal Asgardian.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
I've seen it for a couple times. I don't see a big difference between Iron Man's suit durability other than the scene against Thor/Cap+Bucky.
Just the scene with Thor would be enough as he gets hit hard enough to destroy a tree without a scratch and withstood a shock wave that uprooted multiple trees.
Edit: However IM also survived getting stuck in the helicarrier's turbine, where he was getting hit by multi-ton blades moving at speed.
He was able to keep in shape in very very bad environment, why would he have trouble to simply fly out of a cage.
Standing under a heavy weight is completely different than keeping your balance in a spinning object.
These Asgardians were the elite soldiers died in the conquest of Asgard, they were obviously very stronger, quite a few Asgardian soldiers were killed by them, even Heimdall was almost killed by a couple of them. The Asgardians were nowhere close to the Kryptonians, who could take on heavy air+land forces with ease.
They were corpses that had been decomposing for at least a thousand years and no, Heimdall wasn't almost killed by a couple of them.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No! They are stupid and weaker. Like Zombies.They don't show the kind of feats Asgardians like Lady Sif, or Thor's Gang did. Also a normal machine gun wouldn't pose a threat to a normal Asgardian.
No, we saw quite a few Asgardians including soldiers got killed by them, Heimdall would have been dead if not for Loki's buddies arriving.
These undead were the elite soldiers, revived by Hela and the eternal flame's power, not just some zombies.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
No, we saw quite a few Asgardians including soldiers got killed by them, Heimdall would have been dead if not for Loki's buddies arriving.These undead were the elite soldiers, revived by Hela and the eternal flame's power, not just some zombies.
Due to numbers not them being better than a normal Asgardian.
Elite but dead. They are zombis. Their bodies are also weaker.
1 normal Asgardians = 2 Zombi's i'd dear to say.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Just the scene with Thor would be enough as he gets hit hard enough to destroy a tree without a scratch and withstood a shock wave that uprooted multiple trees.
You are trying to use same thing to prove what you need to prove here.
Standing under a heavy weight is completely different than keeping your balance in a spinning object.
They were corpses that had been decomposing for at least a thousand years and no, Heimdall wasn't almost killed by a couple of them.
They were elite soldiers and revived by the power of Hela+the eternal flame. They posed a big threat to the remaining Asgardians, yes Heimdall was almost killed if not for Loki's buddies arriving.
We saw how they fight the Asgardians, they were very strong.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Due to numbers not them being better than a normal Asgardian.Elite but dead. They are zombis. Their bodies are also weaker.
1 normal Asgardians = 2 Zombi's i'd dear to say.
Heimdall had ppl helping him and he would have been dead there. Eomer killed all of the remaining undead with ease without any help. Heimdall<<<<2 M16 machine guns.
They are revived by the eternal flame magic, there were many fighting scenes in the movie, they are not weaker than normal Asgardians at all.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
So what? That means Thor's punch wasn't strong enough compare to Cap+Bucky.You are trying to use same thing to prove what you need to prove here.
No, that proves you're lowballing. Cap and Bucky have zero feats that even come close to hitting someone through a tree.
Since even such strong pressure could not stop Superman, then I don't see the spinning could throw Superman out of balance.
Your opinion isn't proof.
They were elite soldiers and revived by the power of Hela+the eternal flame. They posed a big threat to the remaining Asgardians, yes Heimdall was almost killed if not for Loki's buddies arriving.We saw how they fight the Asgardians, they were very strong.
Nothing you state here refutes any of my points.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, that proves you're lowballing. Cap and Bucky have zero feats that even come close to hitting someone through a tree.
They were able to break out Iron Man's armor, that's enough.
Your opinion isn't proof.
Nothing you state here refutes any of my points.
The elite undead Asgardians could be soloed by machine guns, that pretty much means Hela's feats wasn't impressive against Kryptonians like Superman, who is much stronger and faster.