Superman vs Fenris/Hulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
She did try but she wasn't going all out and was trying to talk him out of it. WW was his friend and no one was there all out. We see how different even the weakest of them fared against Superman all out. You are one weird guy.

I am arguing about their overall combat formidability not if they are stronger or not. WW is the more skilled warrior while Superman is the more physically powerful character. Superman never goes all out to kill unless he's forced to ala Zod so it's a part of his character dceu fans desperately try to ignore. Superman isn't a brutal character he's a farmboy that Batman still negated due to his tactics in bring Lois into the fray. Batman still chilled him out with his "big gun."
I never said he wasn't. The flash wasn't that impressive and did worse against Steppenwolf combat wise. He's a joke combat wise. He's very inexperienced and says he only has pushed people before. Weak dceu team overall.
Superman rarely if ever tries to kill unlike Batman or even WW. This is what makes him overall weaker his character not his raw abilities. We argue in character here and he's physically greater than they are. He used hv, etc. but it didn't really do any damage from his attacks just to Batman who needed a little physical therapy. That's all.

Superman had recovered and he was immune to Batman's attacks so the rest of his physalis abilities returned he just wasn't fast enough in combat. Batman's second shot was painfully slow even for human reaction times.

Superman almost always holds back so that's how he fights as a character. We argue in character not skillsets. That's the point that has finally dawned on you.
He isn't as fast as the flash he can react to him but flash is clearly faster. He is stronger than the rest but he isn't more skilled, doesn't have the tactical acumen of Batman, doesn't have the abilities of Cyborg or Aquaman either. He's just the strongest and has the most raw abilities physicality wise here. What brings him down is his cuckish mentality and farmboy morals.

They were harmed not hurt after the fight. Superman didn't win Batman did as soon as he deployed Lois. Superman stopped because he's a weak man weighed down by his morals in a fight.

Hulk is physically a lot stronger than Superman. He doesn't need the speed to amplify his strength. Hulk is faster than Batman who is fast enough to tag Superman so don't delude yourself.

Doomsday didn't display anywhere close to that level of speed. He had no training and was out of the gate more formidable than Superman. Quit ignoring the films and citing the comics to try to bail your pitifully biased argument out of the water. He was never faster than the flash but you have never had to be to tag the flash in comics.

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So, you don't have an actual argument, you're just shitposting about CIS and using it as an excuse, which won't fly here, since Superman doesn't need Hulk to save his mom from Luthor.

Glad we agree that Superman is the most powerful of the League and as fast as Flash, at least. The rest of your dribble is irrelevant.

So now go ahead and prove that Hulk
A) Is stronger than a guy who can casually overpower Aquaman, Cyborg and Wonder Woman in addition to his World Engine and Singularity feats
B) Is fast enough to tag somene as fast as Flash
C) Has the reflexes to avoid a super speed barrage from that same someone
D) Is capable of handling someone with the versatile powerset of Superman, who routinely uses his flight, speed, and heat vision in combat and has a habit of BFRing big green retards into space

This is a stomp post JL.

Yep. Hard to argue against this tbh

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Originally posted by Firefly218
Hulk has yet to show a fatal flaw whereas Kryptonians can have their necks snapped with moderate strength. If hulk gets supes in a bear hug and restrains him long enough, his vulnerable neck will be snapped like a toothpick

Hulk's shown he can be put on his ass and that he can barely handle Thor's speed and skills.

Hulk has been knocked out by Iron Man and pinned down by Chitauri fire (which even Steve has tanked) too. I get wanking comic Hulk, but this version is pretty meh.

How can they even fight if Superman doesn't let them touch the ground.

Superman can ping pong them around in the air, Dragon Ball style. Punch into the air, super speed, punch to the skyline, super speed, punch ten feet to the left, super speed. Air juggle pinball combo to ko.

What the **** these shitty slow beings like the dog and Hulk are gonna do to superman?

He could rip their organs while eveything is frozen in time.

And like LOL wtf is Fenrir gonna do?

Originally posted by Estacado
Unless you are called dumbshit112.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Hulk has been knocked out by Iron Man and pinned down by Chitauri fire (which even Steve has tanked) too. I get wanking comic Hulk, but this version is pretty meh.

He was decimated by a prepped Batman. For ****s sake the double standards are hilarious. Iron Man in his regular suit would destroy five batmen.

Hulk beats the shit out of Superman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
So, you don't have an actual argument, you're just shitposting about CIS and using it as an excuse, which won't fly here, since Superman doesn't need Hulk to save his mom from Luthor.

Glad we agree that Superman is the most powerful of the League and as fast as Flash, at least. The rest of your dribble is irrelevant.

So now go ahead and prove that Hulk
A) Is stronger than a guy who can casually overpower Aquaman, Cyborg and Wonder Woman in addition to his World Engine and Singularity feats
B) Is fast enough to tag somene as fast as Flash
C) Has the reflexes to avoid a super speed barrage from that same someone
D) Is capable of handling someone with the versatile powerset of Superman, who routinely uses his flight, speed, and heat vision in combat and has a habit of BFRing big green retards into space

I always said he was but WW is the most skilled and he isn't as fast as the flash just quick enough to react to him.

A) Hulk easily put a Leviathan in check. Superman was ko'd by the muscle strain in holding up a tower. Aquaman, Cyborg, and WW pale in strength to Thor let alone the Hulk. Hulk eats Ultron bots and one arm ragdolls Thor. World engine is exaggerated as is the singularity. Didn't lois survive as well ?

B) So ? We see humans on the avengers fast enough to tag Quicksilver. Flash gets tagged all the time and even tripped over himself he was that noobish with his powers.

C) See the end of B).

D) Superman was killed by DD. He had help. Hv didn't really damage anyone for the most part while Hulk tore up the Hulkbuster armor that continued to reform from Veronica something Bruce Banner helped design to neutralize the Hulk. Hulk can tank everything Superman can throw his way.

Hulk took on a much greater skilled combatant in Thor and fared fine. The Justice league wasn't there to even fight him and you can tell by their dialogue and actions. Flash is about as noobish as a character gets in the entire film.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman was ko'd by a water tower and needed to be saved by Aquaman from drowning. 😂

He was decimated by a prepped Batman. For ****s sake the double standards are hilarious. Iron Man in his regular suit would destroy five batmen.

Hulk beats the shit out of Superman.

Superman was weakened from Krytonite.

Hulk was decimated by Iron Man in the Hulk buster. Mind you, the Hulk was going for the kill, where as Tony wasn't. Just like Bruce was going for the kill, and Clark wasn't.

Hulk dies.

Originally posted by SquallX
Superman was weakened from Krytonite.

Hulk was decimated by Iron Man in the Hulk buster. Mind you, the Hulk was going for the kill, where as Tony wasn't. Just like Bruce was going for the kill, and Clark wasn't.

Hulk dies.

No, Hulk was fine and just came out of a hex. His attention was elsewhere and Bruce Banner helped design Veronica in order to neutralize the Hulk.

Iron Man reformed and Hulk quit fighting him due to the hex wearing off.

Hulk wins. Superman didn't really hurt anyone in that scene.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying that a human being can easily outwit Superman. His morals have always been a huge weakness in combat. Superman will need Batman to save him from the Hulk.

I always said he was but WW is the most skilled and he isn't as fast as the flash just quick enough to react to him.

A) Hulk easily put a Leviathan in check. Superman was ko'd by the muscle strain in holding up a tower. Aquaman, Cyborg, and WW pale in strength to Thor let alone the Hulk. Hulk eats Ultron bots and one arm ragdolls Thor. World engine is exaggerated as is the singularity. Didn't lois survive as well ?

B) So ? We see humans on the avengers fast enough to tag Quicksilver. Flash gets tagged all the time and even tripped over himself he was that noobish with his powers.

C) See the end of B).

D) Superman was killed by DD. He had help. Hv didn't really damage anyone for the most part while Hulk tore up the Hulkbuster armor that continued to reform from Veronica something Bruce Banner helped design to neutralize the Hulk. Hulk can tank everything Superman can throw his way.

Hulk took on a much greater skilled combatant in Thor and fared fine. The Justice league wasn't there to even fight him and you can tell by their dialogue and actions. Flash is about as noobish as a character gets in the entire film.

Batman is no mere human, his intelligence is basically superhuman. This is irrelevant in this fight because it's Clark vs a two beings that are only slightly less retarded than you.

WW's skill didn't do jack shit against Superman. The movie clearly showed them being peers in speed in like 3 different scenes. Don't debate if you haven't seen the movie.

He slowed down an already fallen Leviathan. Wow. Superman casually towed an icebreaker through thick ice with no effort at all. Lmao, you're not trying to use fodder Ultron bots that Hawkeye was killing as a feat for Hulk, right? How low can you go? Rag-dolling someone by cheapshotting them is not a credible feat.

Good thing Flash and Superman >>>>> Quicksilver.

DD is to Hulk what Mike Tyson is to normal people. He'd tear Brucey apart. He didn't damage anyone do you even watch the movies you debate, you tard? Hulk can't even tank Iron Man, he's dead against Supes.

Thor has the worst track record in the MCU, he hasn't beaten a single impressive opponent, and Hulk has never been able to overcome him. The League weren't there to fight him, but they still tried. You conveniently ignore that Superman wasn't attacking them either, he was just responding to their attacks.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Batman is no mere human, his intelligence is basically superhuman. This is irrelevant in this fight because it's Clark vs a two beings that are only slightly less retarded than you.

WW's skill didn't do jack shit against Superman. The movie clearly showed them being peers in speed in like 3 different scenes. Don't debate if you haven't seen the movie.

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He slowed down an already fallen Leviathan. Wow. Superman casually towed an icebreaker through thick ice with no effort at all. Lmao, you're not trying to use fodder Ultron bots that Hawkeye was killing as a feat for Hulk, right? How low can you go? Rag-dolling someone by cheapshotting them is not a credible feat.

Good thing Flash and Superman >>>>> Quicksilver.
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I am saying he ripped one apart in his mouth. Did Thor do the same ? Did Hawkeye ? Batman beat Superman one on one so I wouldn't talk about what humans can and can't do you pile of biased shit.

One armed ragdolling shows immense super strength

False, Quicksilver unlike flash isn't a dope worried about pushing people. Baseless claims but speed is easily dealt with by the avengers. 🙂

DD is to Hulk what Mike Tyson is to normal people. He'd tear Brucey apart. He didn't damage anyone do you even watch the movies you debate, you tard? Hulk can't even tank Iron Man, he's dead against Supes.

Thor has the worst track record in the MCU, he hasn't beaten a single impressive opponent, and Hulk has never been able to overcome him. The League weren't there to fight him, but they still tried. You conveniently ignore that Superman wasn't attacking them either, he was just responding to their attacks. [/B]

Bruce designed the suit which could reform. Batman didn't need to reform his suit from multiple strikes and attacks from Superman. His suit is inferior to Hulkbuster by country miles. He came out of a he and wasn't fighting iron man. Cheapshot.

Thor easily trounced Destroyer, crushed Loki, and has been beaten by who exactly ? Batman beat Superman one on one. Thor has powers and skill Superman doesn't. Superman was attacking while WW was telling him to stop. He hits like a girl so the only one who felt any pain post fight was the human being who previously beat him the Batman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is a human being who is more tactical than shit eating grin farmboy. This is a fight not a rocket building contest though Banner is far smarter than Superman so he loses there as well. Hulk knows how to fight just as Fenris. Go fight a pit bull and tell me if you win, smart guy.

She head butted him and lasso's him you ****tard. She is weaker than he is and isn't trying to kill him. You clearly didn't understand the scene. Superman is fighting against a weaker team than the Avengers who are trying to be nice since they brought him back to life. Batman always had Lois waiting back there to neutralize his sensitive ass.

The leviathan wasn't fallen. He easily punked it right after his transformation. False, he did show effort and he was ko'd by a tower so quit cherry picking and lying about the one scene while ignoring the other.

I am saying he ripped one apart in his mouth. Did Thor do the same ? Did Hawkeye ? Batman beat Superman one on one so I wouldn't talk about what humans can and can't do you pile of biased shit.

One armed ragdolling shows immense super strength

False, Quicksilver unlike flash isn't a dope worried about pushing people. Baseless claims but speed is easily dealt with by the avengers. 🙂

False, Hulk would break him like he did Abom. Abom out of the gate looked like the favorite but piss Hulk off enough and he's going to break you.

Bruce designed the suit which could reform. Batman didn't need to reform his suit from multiple strikes and attacks from Superman. His suit is inferior to Hulkbuster by country miles. He came out of a he and wasn't fighting iron man. Cheapshot.

Thor easily trounced Destroyer, crushed Loki, and has been beaten by who exactly ? Batman beat Superman one on one. Thor has powers and skill Superman doesn't. Superman was attacking while WW was telling him to stop. He hits like a girl so the only one who felt any pain post fight was the human being who previously beat him the Batman.

Save your batwanking for your private time in your mom's basement. He's not in this fight. Hulk and Fenris don't have Batman's tactical mind. Any adult male should be able to handle a dog. I've done it more than once.

He didn't try to dodge either, he just tanked them. As usual you have no point, just rambling.

Oh, so the Leviathan wasn't on the ground when Hulk punched it and it wasn't Iron Man who actually blew it up? I guess you didn't watch the Avengers. Can't blame you, I suppose. It's a shitty movie.

Those bots had barely above human level durability. Who gives a crap about tearing one apart?

Thor only weighs a few hundreds pounds. If he's not braced for an attack it's a non-feat. Might as well brag about ragdolling a sack of flour. Also, Thor ragdolled Hulk in Ragnarok as well, so it goes both ways.

And Flash isn't a loser, who gets killed by slow-ass bullets. Show me one instance of Hulk reacting to someone even half as fast as Flash.

First of all, Abom is weak as hell compared to DD. Second, Hulk only won that fight because Blonsky was busy trying to get Ross, and Betty was in danger. If he continued to beat on Hulk he would have killed him before he had time to amp.

Tisk tisk. Forgetting the Kryptonite again. We saw how easily Superman manhandled Batman in his armor before the Kryptonite came into play.

The Destroyer is a Mjolnir feat mostly, and the Destroyer itself is pretty featless. It's not the monster it is in the comics. Loki is a weakling, Idk why you even brought him up. Thor couldn't really beat Malekith or Hela, and Kurse absolutely raped him. MCU Thor is a b*tch, and Hulk was about to get his ass beat by him until Grandmaster stopped him.

Superman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Save your batwanking for your private time in your mom's basement. He's not in this fight. Hulk and Fenris don't have Batman's tactical mind. Any adult male should be able to handle a dog. I've done it more than once.

He didn't try to dodge either, he just tanked them. As usual you have no point, just rambling.

Oh, so the Leviathan wasn't on the ground when Hulk punched it and it wasn't Iron Man who actually blew it up? I guess you didn't watch the Avengers. Can't blame you, I suppose. It's a shitty movie.

Those bots had barely above human level durability. Who gives a crap about tearing one apart?

Thor only weighs a few hundreds pounds. If he's not braced for an attack it's a non-feat. Might as well brag about ragdolling a sack of flour. Also, Thor ragdolled Hulk in Ragnarok as well, so it goes both ways.
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Your point about Hawkeye using his gadgets to destroy them has nothing to do with Hulk ripping one apart with his mouth. It shows how much of a physical beast Hulk is in comparison to his Avengers. Ultron bots formidability wise aren't the end all be all but not everyone can eat them. That's the point.

So you're saying Loki can ragdoll Thor ? No, it's meant to show physicality and we clearly see how much bigger his muscles are than Thor's muscles. Thor has super strength.

And Flash isn't a loser, who gets killed by slow-ass bullets. Show me one instance of Hulk reacting to someone even half as fast as Flash.

First of all, Abom is weak as hell compared to DD. Second, Hulk only won that fight because Blonsky was busy trying to get Ross, and Betty was in danger. If he continued to beat on Hulk he would have killed him before he had time to amp.

Tisk tisk. Forgetting the Kryptonite again. We saw how easily Superman manhandled Batman in his armor before the Kryptonite came into play.

The Destroyer is a Mjolnir feat mostly, and the Destroyer itself is pretty featless. It's not the monster it is in the comics. Loki is a weakling, Idk why you even brought him up. Thor couldn't really beat Malekith or Hela, and Kurse absolutely raped him. MCU Thor is a b*tch, and Hulk was about to get his ass beat by him until Grandmaster stopped him. [/B]

What's your point ? Speedsters far faster can be dealt with by marvel characters slower than the Hulk. QS isn't a threat to the Hulk.

Speculation. Abom is smarter and at the onset was physically greater than Hulk but once he got pissed he beat the shit out of him. Speculation. Quit ignoring the facts and speculating on what would have happened. Focus on what did happen.

Batman tanked multiple attacks in a weaker suit so we see how weak Superman is when he attacks someone since Batman weathered it before implementing his strategy.

That is Thor's hammer so of course you want to ignore his weapon which channels the powers of Thor. Featless when you brought up Zeus as superior to Thor. Oh the hypocrisy and retardation you display.

Thor did beat an amped Malekith. Superman couldn't beat Steppenwolf with a teams aid. 😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman.

Even Rage has seen the light.