Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which is odd, because it seemed more like the other way around in the previous seasons.
Kanan seems more experienced in terms of lightsaber duellig but Ezra has more raw power. Even as of Visions and Voices the Nightsisters basically confirmed that Ezra possessed more power.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Kanan seems more experienced in terms of lightsaber duellig but Ezra has more raw power. Even as of Visions and Voices the Nightsisters basically confirmed that Ezra possessed more power.
Raw power doesn’t equate realised formidablity though.
Also nightsister possessed Kanan was flooring Ezra pretty easily.
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
At the very least Ezra was approaching Kanan's skill level if not on par prior to his blinding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1XyWoP2bY
"Tied again?"
I doubt it because that incarnation of Ezra was still no match for an Inquisitor.
Ezra's higher potential was confirmed by FPJ and the Nigjtsisters did imply that he's more powerful as well but as everything in Filoni's animted media it depends from situation per situation. Kanan's greater experience might allow him to access the Force in a more skilled way compared to Ezra. Also, Nightsister possessed Kanan was obviously not comparable to normal Kanan, hell that Kanan was driving back Maul pretty easily.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9If Ezra is still struggling with basic Force feats that Kanan can easily replicate, I think that’s grounds for dismissing the idea that Ezra is Kanan’s level. Not that Ezra being Kanan’s level proves anything in regards to Ahsoka, lol.
Even by the end of season 3 Ezra was nearing Kanan. I'll take FPJ's word (while Filoni was present) over your opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQxq9wzFYnI
^ Yeah...Ezra and Kanan were pretty close in terms of skill here.
Ezra's always had a natural talent for beast control, or whatever it is. He's sorta portrayed as a superior albeit slightly in the episodes including the wolves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L_Rwu_Ndqo
^ He went Force Unleashed mode here which is impressive considering it's supposed to show his power. Him plowing through storm troopers supports the theory of him becoming an Ataru user. His style looks to be the Ataru based version of ROTJ Luke's rough around the edges use of Djem So.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Like Force jumps. And Ezra has repeatedly failed to accomplish feats as of both Season 3 and 4 that Ahsoka has accomplished easily, so the supposed parity Ezra has between Kanan is irrelevant since Ezra fails to stack up to Ahsoka in a straight comparison. Not to mention the fact that “Kanan > Ahsoka” is hardly an inarguable opinion to have, so you can’t fall back on “Kanan ~ Ezra > Ahsoka” whenever Ezra’s sub-par performances are brought to everyone’s attention.
Struggling with basic Force feats? And well it does since Kanan is Ahsoka's superior.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Also, Nightsister possessed Kanan was obviously not comparable to normal Kanan, hell that Kanan was driving back Maul pretty easily.
Regular Kanan defeated Maul pretty quickly 😉
In all seriousness though, Maul was purposefully moving out of the area where the Nightsisters could operate.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
By that time he was, he went against them in the beginning of that episode and was only taken out because he saved Kanan.
Nah he was barely holding his own against the 5th Brother whereas Kanan seemed to have a slight edge over the 7th Sister and was solidly beating on the 5th Brother.
Before Ezra’s S3 growth spurt he was definitely not close to Kanan. Except for in his talent to connect to animals.
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQxq9wzFYnI^ Yeah...Ezra and Kanan were pretty close in terms of skill here.
I don’t think so. They did have to escape. If it was 2 Kanan’s they could have stayed and defeated the 2 Inquisitors (albeit after a hard fight).
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
At the very least Ezra was approaching Kanan's skill level if not on par prior to his blinding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1XyWoP2bY
"Tied again?"
You understand the difference between sparring matches and actual combat, right?
@Joker: The quoting system isn't working at this moment. Regardless of the Force Jumps what else really? Using augmentation in the animated media to compare certain characters is inconsistent, there are too many irregularities and contradicting facts to effectively use that kind of comparison. Not to mention that Kanan could just have a superior augmentation to begin with, his early season 3 arc was focused around improving his trust in the Force and his senses At the same time why don't you mention how an episode earlier the Nightsisters (a completely unbiased party) claimed Ezra's the stronger of the two?
Also do enlighten me about feats that Ahsoka "performed easily" and Ezra hasn't accomplished in Season 3 or 4. I'm genuinely curious.
@Thor: Maul was moving away because he was getting pushed back and overwhelmed and had no way in defeating the Nightsisters. It's obviously that that version of Kanan is way superior to his normal level.
I do actually agree with that, Ezra isn't on Kanan's level as of Season 2. I do believe Ezra can face Inquisitors, he might not exactly be on their level yet but he can give them a fight and alongside Kanan fight them as peers (besides Kanan has shown to be better than the Fifth Brother, Seventh Sister and Eight Brother by the time of Malachor).
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Lol. If two characters perform the exact same physical move in the animation, with the shows being created by the same people, there is no inconsistency. Ezra has repeatedly shown to be incapable of jumping high or long distances, which speaks to his lackluster Force augmentation. And Ahsoka has demonstrated just the opposite, consistently. Plus, I'd say Force augmentation is pretty important when fighting, wouldn't you?
@Joker: The quoting system isn't working at this moment. Regardless of the Force Jumps what else really? Using augmentation in the animated media to compare certain characters is inconsistent, there are too many irregularities and contradicting facts to effectively use that kind of comparison.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Superior augmentation factors in heavily in combat situations—especially lightsaber duels. And I'm pretty sure Ezra's growth in power wasn't so specific—wasn't Filoni, FPJ and co. all speaking to Ezra's power growth?
Not to mention that Kanan could just have a superior augmentation to begin with, his early season 3 arc was focused around improving his trust in the Force and his senses
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Because I didn't remember that scene? Link me.
At the same time why don't you mention how an episode earlier the Nightsisters (a completely unbiased party) claimed Ezra's the stronger of the two?
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Genuinely curious people totally start off a sentence with "do enlighten me." 🙄 Anyways, the ones that came to mind off the top of my head: Ahsoka has jumped massive distances (Kiros)—ones that are several times larger than the one Ezra was incapable of jumping in Season 3. She was also demonstrably faster than the Trandoshans she encountered on Wasskah, which I can't really say the same for with Ezra.
Also do enlighten me about feats that Ahsoka "performed easily" and Ezra hasn't accomplished in Season 3 or 4. I'm genuinely curious.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
@Thor: Maul was moving away because he was getting pushed back and overwhelmed and had no way in defeating the Nightsisters.
Why is it that every time someone gives ground people think they’re “getting pushed back and overwhelmed”..
Being overwhelmed would be what happened to Ezra when he was getting floored with 1 hit. Maul’s defended held up, and we know he wasn’t interested in finishing the fight, just in leaving.