Sheev vs All PT jedi sans Yoda, Mace, Anakin

Originally posted by Kurk
I think that's 80 clones total

Originally posted by Total Warrior
it’s like 80 clones make that much of a difference, a few dozen Jedi can easily dispatch them and then join their brethrens later. Keeping 30-40 Jedi at bay for minute diesn’t make tat much of a difference if there are 9960 Jedi already engaging Siddy

Originally posted by Kurk
Bro I mean c'mon. B-team was the cream of the crop for PT jedi masters aside from Mace, Ani, Yoda and we saw what happened. so there are 9960 jedi. 1/3 of them are younglings, 1/3 are Ahsoka/Aayla/Barriss level, and the remaining third are inbetween that and B-team.

Any version of sids gets wall of lighted.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah. There's only about 200 younglings at any given time. The vast majority of Jedi are padawans, Knights, or Masters.

Yeah, but here now we have Kenobi and Vos who are much stronger than B team members (Mace aside obv)+ 8 remaining Jedi councilors who all are more or less around B Team level. Add to them Jedi such as A’Sharad Hett, An’ya Kuro, Infila etc and I can already see them defeating Sid. Then you have thousands of other Jedi who are fodder but could still distract Sid. I can’t really se how Sid can solo the whole Jedi Order

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@Kurk:

So, we have 200 younglings at any given time.

-- 200 Jedi younglings

The younglings replenish themselves every three years.

However, not all of them make it.

Let's assume 175 of them make it to become Jedi padawans.

So, at the end of ten years, the Jedi Order will have:

200 Jedi younglings, 525 Jedi padawans (175 x 3).

-- 525 Jedi Padawans

I read a master-apprentice relationship is generally a decade long.

Thus, 525 Jedi Knights should be produced in that time period too.

-- 525 Jedi Knights

That leaves us with the vast majority of Jedi being Masters.

-- 9,475 Jedi Masters

Granted, many Masters take upon Padawans, so that number obviously isn't accurate, but it's enough to indicate simply that there's way more Masters than you're giving credit for.

There's just no chance Sidious is going to win.

Ant where are you getting your numbers? Because Jedi Knights comprise the bulk of the Order, the Masters are the least in number.

the most fewest.

Obviously there's not that many Jedi Masters but, the point is, the majority are.

Naw dawg, most of the Jedi are probably either Knights or Padawans.

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@Zen: my logic is as follows:

There's 200 Jedi Younglings at any given time per starwars.com.

Wookieepedia says a Jedi Youngling's tutelage generally takes 3 years (can anyone confirm?).

So, across ten years, 800 Jedi Padawans should be produced, no?

Wookieepedia also says a general master-apprentice relationship is a decade (can anyone confirm?).

So, across ten years, we have 800 new Jedi Padawans coming in as 800 are graduating to Jedi Knight.

etc.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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The Jedi Path.

There are more Knights than any other rank of Jedi in the Order.

- Taken from Jedi Path

The rank of Jedi Master is the highest form of recognition one can achieve in the Jedi Order. Jedi who have attained this rank are the fewest in membership, and are outnumbered even by the Younglings.

- Taken from the Jedi Path

So the Masters can't be more in number than the Knights.

The rank of Jedi Master is the highest form of recognition one can achieve in the Jedi Order. Jedi who have attained this rank are the fewest in membership, and are outnumbered even by the Younglings.

- Taken from the Jedi Path

I'd say that's blatantly inconsistent with the 200 Jedi Youngling reporting.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/jedi-youngling

I assume they didn't pull that number out of their ass either.

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Based on the premise there's 200 Jedi Younglings, it logically follows a majority are Masters.

Granted, I always thought that premise to be retarded, but it seems to be the reality, no?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

I'd say that's blatantly inconsistent with the 200 Jedi Youngling reporting.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/jedi-youngling

I assume they didn't pull that number out of their ass either.

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Based on the premise there's 200 Jedi Younglings, it logically follows a majority are Masters.

Granted, I always thought that premise to be retarded, but it seems to be the reality, no? [/B]

Are you factoring washouts and other things? Because not all 200 would make it. The same with Padawans making it to Knights, Knights to Master too. Not every single number goes up.

Washouts would only mean more Jedi Masters.

The 200 number provided just seems wildly at odds with The Jedi Path.

I'm not sure what to trust, either.

Very strange.

I mean there are other sources saying that Masters are the fewest or implying to be so. Same with the Jedi Knight being the most numerous in number. Of course same with the Younglings...hm..

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Kurk:

So, we have 200 younglings at any given time.

[b]-- 200 Jedi younglings

The younglings replenish themselves every three years.

However, not all of them make it.

Let's assume 175 of them make it to become Jedi padawans.

So, at the end of ten years, the Jedi Order will have:

200 Jedi younglings, 525 Jedi padawans (175 x 3).

-- 525 Jedi Padawans

I read a master-apprentice relationship is generally a decade long.

Thus, 525 Jedi Knights should be produced in that time period too.

-- 525 Jedi Knights

That leaves us with the vast majority of Jedi being Masters.

-- 9,475 Jedi Masters

Granted, many Masters take upon Padawans, so that number obviously isn't accurate, but it's enough to indicate simply that there's way more Masters than you're giving credit for.

There's just no chance Sidious is going to win. [/B]

What scenario does it have to be for ma boy Sheev to win? How about he gets the entire 212th attack battalion of clone troopers led by Cody. They march into the temple Vader style.

This was meant to be a Sheev vs all fodder, nameless jedi thread. MVPs like DD Vos and wanked Kenobi weren't accounted for.

Originally posted by Total Warrior_
at best it’s a draw because Sid gets himself destroyed by his own storm like in DE. That is, if he is able to kill all 10 000 Jedi before he gets consumed

You do realize that he was severed from the Force, when he was consumed by the Storm, leaving no way for him to defend himself, do you?

Now, I must wonder, even at full power, why would Sidious summon a Storm_on top of himself and threaten death at the hands of his own creation, like you're suggesting? Do you understand how little sense that makes? The more likely option is that he simy teleports himself out of there and stomps the Jedi from orbit before they realize what hit them - and yes, he'd be able to do that given how the Storm would literally materialize out of nowhere and is capable of travelling across the circumference of a large moon in seconds, as seen in DE. Unless you're telling me they can pull off a Wall of Light in that time, they're royally screwed.