Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the alt-right call themselve 'alt-right'
'alt-left' is a label applied by right wingers to vilify whomever they please. i could probably explain this to a child and have them comprehending the concept. why are you so ill-equipped to do so? fee-fees?
And the term "alt right" is used in the SAME way by the left to vilify people. That would only not be true if they only ever referred to people who openly identify as alt right...as alt right.
Originally posted by Surtur
And applying the term alt right to those who never claimed to be...would be just as much bullshit, correct? Bullshit done to try to equate those people to actual nazis.
Sure, if someone where to call say John McCain "Alt-Right", it would be bullshit as he's never shown such tendencies afaik, as an example.
But again, you're avoiding the point that "Alt-Right is something that legitimately exist, as people identify themselves; there is a large movement. "Alt-Left", seems to be a propped up scarecrow which is beaten. Not that "Leftist" can't be shitheads and criminals themselves
Originally posted by Emperordmb
To pretend the worst most regressive aspects of politics are exclusive to the right or only at their most disgusting at the alt-right is disingenuous.
Indeed, and I'm tired of this stupid nazi bullshit. If you dare mention anyone else who commits atrocious acts...you are equalizing them to nazis. Even after Antifa was branded terrorists by DHS, even after we found out intelligence agencies had been warning local and state officials for the past year about the potential for more attacks by Antifa..it is still "they didn't murder someone so f*ck you, you can't even bring it up".
Even if you point out instances that seem like attempted murder(smashing bike locks over skulls, throwing bricks at peoples heads) it is...meh, nazis!
Oh. I see there is some misunderstanding concering semantics.
I think everyone agrees that Neo-nazis branded themselves Alt-Right.
I am also sure everyone understands that *Alt-Left* is a term to apply to the most repulsive Left-wing radicals. BTW It's not like they would call themselvess so because it would immediately associate them with Alt-Right (even if they are indeed comparably bad).
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, if someone where to call say John McCain "Alt-Right", it would be bullshit as he's never shown such tendencies afaik, as an example.But again, you're avoiding the point that "Alt-Right is something that legitimately exist, as people identify themselves; their is a large movement. "Alt-Left", seems to be a propped up scarecrow which is beaten. Not that "Leftist" can't be shitheads and criminals themselves
Yeah and see it's not just something like John McCain. I have been called alt right before lol. And if you're going to attempt to justify that you're going to rob yourself of all credibility. I'm not alt right, I despise nazis, have no problems with jews, etc. Yet I've been deemed a nazi by your braindead pal.
And again: stop lying. Nobody is avoiding that. I said they exist. What I also said is that most of the time when the term is now used it is not people on the alt right referring to themselves. It is by cuck leftists who are branding anyone they disagree with as nazis, but they lack the balls to come out and call them nazis so they say alt right.
The alt left is not a deflection, it is a term used to describe the more radical leftists. That is all. Nobody using it is saying leftists call themselves "alt left".
Originally posted by Stigma
Oh. I see there is some misunderstanding concering semantics.I think everyone agrees that Neo-nazis branded themselves Alt-Right.
I am also sure everyone understands that *Alt-Left* is a term to apply to the most repulsive Left-wing radicals. BTW It's not like they would call themselvess so because it would immediately associate them with Alt-Right (even if they are indeed comparably bad).
I disagree about the misunderstanding. They know very well nazis branded themselves alt right, but they also know very well these days if you hear the term it's usually being hurled as an insult, it is not being used by a nazi to refer to themselves.
They know this, they know that nobody is saying the left call themselves alt left lol. I guarantee that, they just do not care. Just like real nazis exist, and yet the left loves to use the term in the wrong way to discredit anyone they disagree with.
They are doing what they are doing in order to imply the term "alt left" could only ever be used by some foaming at the mouth right winger trying to deflect from actual nazis.
But Sargon is not right wing lol. Nor does he have ANY love for nazis. But pshh those are just pesky facts.
Originally posted by Stigma
Oh. I see there is some misunderstanding concering semantics.I think everyone agrees that Neo-nazis branded themselves Alt-Right.
I am also sure everyone understands that *Alt-Left* is a term to apply to the most repulsive Left-wing radicals. BTW It's not like they would call themselvess so because it would immediately associate them with Alt-Right (even if they are indeed comparably bad).
^ Gets it and I overall agree. 👆
Though I'm still wary of labeling others "nazi comparable", cos Nazis. Maybe I'm just really biased against Nazis.
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I would enjoy going diminished responsibility on you... 🙂
Oh I bet you would. A lot of others I bet you would like to be able to do that to as well. Especially the ones you can't Bully About with your Personal Views and Politics.
Because that is just what Fascists do.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah and see it's not just something like John McCain. I have been called alt right before lol. And if you're going to attempt to justify that you're going to rob yourself of all credibility. I'm not alt right, I despise nazis, have no problems with jews, etc. Yet I've been deemed a nazi by your braindead pal.And again: stop lying. Nobody is avoiding that. I said they exist. What I also said is that most of the time when the term is now used it is not people on the alt right referring to themselves. It is by cuck leftists who are branding anyone they disagree with as nazis, but they lack the balls to come out and call them nazis so they say alt right.
The alt left is not a deflection, it is a term used to describe the more radical leftists. That is all. Nobody using it is saying leftists call themselves "alt left".
Surtur, "play nazi games, win nazi prices", what can I say. If it makes you feel better today, I don't think you're an actual Nazi. You just want to attack the Left so hard you'll "miss the trees for the forest" so to speak.
See, your rage betrays you hear. Did you really have to rant about "cuck leftist" now? We're having a peaceful conversation.
As long as you seem to agree that "Alt-Left" was invented and applied by detractors and "Alt-Right" is a self-applied label. cool.
Originally posted by Robtard
^ Gets it and I overall agree. 👆Though I'm still wary of labeling others "nazi comparable", cos Nazis. Maybe I'm just really biased against Nazis.
PSSHHTT an obvious example of EXTREME moderatism
Alt right, extreme left blah blah more sound bites and name tags to disrupt real discourse.