Despero Vs WBH

Originally posted by beatboks
Sobyou didnt read any of the discusion right???

Despero has slaughter stomped the combined might od Superman/ Captain Marvel/ Wonder Woman/ Powergirl/ Hourman and several other JLA and JSAers simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976733-jlajsavv_82.jpg

Hes done this multiple times. He did this without using his mental powers or his energy and matter manip. Any showing of Supes vs Despero 1 on 1 is nothing more than PIS given that he casually grabbed supes with one hand Capt Marvel with another and slammed them into each other taking them out.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976736-jlajsavv_84.jpg

Physically he is leagues above any other DCU character except SBP and at his peak showings Darksied (who would be close to peer).

He casually slaughter stomls half a dozen DC powerhouses physically without employing his more powerful powers.

In TP he casually deals with 2 TP powerhouses simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4589215-5845396020-marti.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781901-despero+-+fight+vs+aquaman+-+jla+v1+-+issue+118+%28005%29.png

There was mention of him being hurt by sharks. This wasnt true. A few oages before this Aquaman had a dozen or so sharks attack him it was no more than a distraction.

Tjen there is the little matter of Desperos absolutely insane level of regeneration. He has even been able to regenerate from being nothing more than atoms anf energy paterns.

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781699-despero+-+regeneration+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+038+%28001%29.png

That took time admittedly but the damage WBH will bring wont. Hes has his head cut off and been able to fight.

Is he just supposed to leave the rest of his powers at home?? Like energy blasts that casually shatter Green Lantern defences

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5779171-despero+-+energy+projection+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+039+%28001%29.png

Or TK that freezes people in place, contain them in bubbles. What about projected illusions, and gis gypnotic 3rd eye.

Despero isnt impervious, his durability is due to his abiliry to control his own atomic steicture and reform much the way Sentry can. As a characterhe is far more on Death Seed Sentry level than Superman. In a purely h2h battle with no access to his other powers yes WBH would win after a hard battle. With him allowed to use his TK, Illusions, Energy manip, and TP I dont see how it can be.

And I'm sorry Hulks resistance to TP isny what it once was

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY2Ma6QmTIMI9fTLKwfnVggCqPNr21hCy-FX1HkxfrYlTsdIAafdNkEPKd

Yeah, he had his head cut off and was still talking like it was nothing.

Originally posted by beatboks
Sobyou didnt read any of the discusion right???

Despero has slaughter stomped the combined might od Superman/ Captain Marvel/ Wonder Woman/ Powergirl/ Hourman and several other JLA and JSAers simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976733-jlajsavv_82.jpg

Hes done this multiple times. He did this without using his mental powers or his energy and matter manip. Any showing of Supes vs Despero 1 on 1 is nothing more than PIS given that he casually grabbed supes with one hand Capt Marvel with another and slammed them into each other taking them out.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976736-jlajsavv_84.jpg

Physically he is leagues above any other DCU character except SBP and at his peak showings Darksied (who would be close to peer).

He casually slaughter stomls half a dozen DC powerhouses physically without employing his more powerful powers.

In TP he casually deals with 2 TP powerhouses simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4589215-5845396020-marti.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781901-despero+-+fight+vs+aquaman+-+jla+v1+-+issue+118+%28005%29.png

There was mention of him being hurt by sharks. This wasnt true. A few oages before this Aquaman had a dozen or so sharks attack him it was no more than a distraction.

Tjen there is the little matter of Desperos absolutely insane level of regeneration. He has even been able to regenerate from being nothing more than atoms anf energy paterns.

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781699-despero+-+regeneration+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+038+%28001%29.png

That took time admittedly but the damage WBH will bring wont. Hes has his head cut off and been able to fight.

Is he just supposed to leave the rest of his powers at home?? Like energy blasts that casually shatter Green Lantern defences

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5779171-despero+-+energy+projection+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+039+%28001%29.png

Or TK that freezes people in place, contain them in bubbles. What about projected illusions, and gis gypnotic 3rd eye.

Despero isnt impervious, his durability is due to his abiliry to control his own atomic steicture and reform much the way Sentry can. As a characterhe is far more on Death Seed Sentry level than Superman. In a purely h2h battle with no access to his other powers yes WBH would win after a hard battle. With him allowed to use his TK, Illusions, Energy manip, and TP I dont see how it can be.

And I'm sorry Hulks resistance to TP isny what it once was

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY2Ma6QmTIMI9fTLKwfnVggCqPNr21hCy-FX1HkxfrYlTsdIAafdNkEPKd

WB Hulk's intestines alone were leagues above Despero at his most powerful level. He was written up to be that ridiculous. All of the guys that you mentioned were well below WB Hulk in terms of power. Superman defeating Despero wasn't PIS, because Superman routinely holds his power in check. He recently did it against Deathstroke, and Superman has gone toe to toe with Darkseid and won. It's only PIS if it happens once, but Superman has broken his self imposed barriers more times than his most staunch fans can count, as has the Hulk. This particular Hulk blew away anything that he has ever done in his entire history. He was throwing around so much power that he turned a highly amplified Fin Fang Foom to dust, and on regular levels Fin Fang Foom was a mountain crusher as seen when Iron man and War machine went up against him several years past.

Despero on the other hand was physically hurt by Lobo, who in his own right is very strong, but not this kind of strong.

Originally posted by beatboks
Sobyou didnt read any of the discusion right???

Despero has slaughter stomped the combined might od Superman/ Captain Marvel/ Wonder Woman/ Powergirl/ Hourman and several other JLA and JSAers simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976733-jlajsavv_82.jpg

Hes done this multiple times. He did this without using his mental powers or his energy and matter manip. Any showing of Supes vs Despero 1 on 1 is nothing more than PIS given that he casually grabbed supes with one hand Capt Marvel with another and slammed them into each other taking them out.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/976736-jlajsavv_84.jpg

Physically he is leagues above any other DCU character except SBP and at his peak showings Darksied (who would be close to peer).

He casually slaughter stomls half a dozen DC powerhouses physically without employing his more powerful powers.

In TP he casually deals with 2 TP powerhouses simultaineously.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4589215-5845396020-marti.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781901-despero+-+fight+vs+aquaman+-+jla+v1+-+issue+118+%28005%29.png

There was mention of him being hurt by sharks. This wasnt true. A few oages before this Aquaman had a dozen or so sharks attack him it was no more than a distraction.

Tjen there is the little matter of Desperos absolutely insane level of regeneration. He has even been able to regenerate from being nothing more than atoms anf energy paterns.

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5781699-despero+-+regeneration+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+038+%28001%29.png

That took time admittedly but the damage WBH will bring wont. Hes has his head cut off and been able to fight.

Is he just supposed to leave the rest of his powers at home?? Like energy blasts that casually shatter Green Lantern defences

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118828/5779171-despero+-+energy+projection+-+justice+league+america+v1+-+issue+039+%28001%29.png

Or TK that freezes people in place, contain them in bubbles. What about projected illusions, and gis gypnotic 3rd eye.

Despero isnt impervious, his durability is due to his abiliry to control his own atomic steicture and reform much the way Sentry can. As a characterhe is far more on Death Seed Sentry level than Superman. In a purely h2h battle with no access to his other powers yes WBH would win after a hard battle. With him allowed to use his TK, Illusions, Energy manip, and TP I dont see how it can be.

And I'm sorry Hulks resistance to TP isny what it once was

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY2Ma6QmTIMI9fTLKwfnVggCqPNr21hCy-FX1HkxfrYlTsdIAafdNkEPKd

hey guys. i'm a DC fan.

whoever is the DC guy is winning this matchup. i'm going to compare whoever it is to how he would do against superman because i believe superman beats any marvel guy. i also don't see anything wrong with thinking like this because I feel powerless in my own life and superman is kind of a captain save a hoe for me so i'll defend him with all my emotions

Despero wins, with ease.

WBH crushes him.

WBH resistance to telepathy should be tremendous at that point.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
WBH crushes Death Sentry.

WBH resistance to matter manipulation should be tremendous at that point.

More.

Originally posted by Raisen
hey guys. i'm a DC fan.

whoever is the DC guy is winning this matchup. i'm going to compare whoever it is to how he would do against superman because i believe superman beats any marvel guy. i also don't see anything wrong with thinking like this because I feel powerless in my own life and superman is kind of a captain save a hoe for me so i'll defend him with all my emotions

Originally posted by Raisen
hey guys. i'm a DC fan.

whoever is the DC guy is winning this matchup. i'm going to compare whoever it is to how he would do against superman because i believe superman beats any marvel guy. i also don't see anything wrong with thinking like this because I feel powerless in my own life and superman is kind of a captain save a hoe for me so i'll defend him with all my emotions

True 😂

He believes that Dr Fate has reality warping powers at universal-level by the way. -.-

Originally posted by RealityWarper
True 😂

He believes that Dr Fate has reality warping powers at universal-level by the way. -.-

Do you even know who Dr Fate is?

Despero loses.

Originally posted by SquallX
Do you even know who Dr Fate is?

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you?!

You don't!

You have 10 seconds to name a Dr. Fate!

GO!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You don't!

You have 10 seconds to name a Dr. Fate!

GO!

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you?!

In the overall picture of those that wore the helmet, I don't know much. But I do know of some feats of the first Fate.

Originally posted by Badabing
You really shouldn't sass your KMC boss like that.

NO ONE BOSSES THE MIGHTY LOB!!!

Originally posted by carver9
He was using TP in the scans you posted. He was tping them while adding physical might behind his attack. Also, Hulk resisted Charles in the scan you posted.

The only time he used anything other than physical strength and durability in vision and vice was when he used energy projection to take out Hawkman at range. That is blatantly false

Charles is MMH level and Despero mind rapes him when he has someone else almost Charlse's level helping him. Part of the point is that even the best TP resistance feats Hulk has aren't against the same level as Despero. Added to which as I've pointed at a few times now his usual Psionic assault is a mix of TP TK (leaning more to the latter)

https://imgur.com/a/iy0cT

Notice how you actually see an energy beam from his third eye?? Also notice how everyone hr controls actually has a representation of his third eye in their forehead??? BTW this is what it would have looked like if he had used TP vs the JLA/JSA in vision and vice. he would have had them slaughter each other and not sullied his hands.

https://imgur.com/a/ZXRB9

see how we see that energy beam again?

http://i.imgur.com/7ssOtcD.jpg

There's that pesky energy again.

https://imgur.com/a/9NuCi

Energy beam at Flash again (who BTW has every bit of the TP resistance feats Hulk has for a similar reason)

Despero Physically restrained Starro in REBELS (the same Starro who also soloed a similar team physically)

Originally posted by Stoic
WB Hulk's intestines alone were leagues above Despero at his most powerful level. He was written up to be that ridiculous.

Sorry???

http://i.imgur.com/eZQ2uVL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zvODUL1.jpg

Despero at his most powerful could turn mere stone into an army, a skyscraper into an alien animal resembling a dragon. He was capable of reality warping.

I want to see the scans of WBH defying reality manipulation

All of the guys that you mentioned were well below WB Hulk in terms of power. Superman defeating Despero wasn't PIS, because Superman routinely holds his power in check. He recently did it against Deathstroke, and Superman has gone toe to toe with Darkseid and won. ..................................

Despero on the other hand was physically hurt by Lobo, who in his own right is very strong, but not this kind of strong.

First of Deathstroke isn't much of a feat for Supes, I;d expect him to slaughter.

Second the only victories Supes has ever had vs Darksied have been hugely reliant on plot *the ver definition of PIS)

third because of the last statement you made (underlined) being complete and utter F#$ing garbage I'm going to request scans of this defeat Superman has had over Despero. Because I've spent an hour Googling for it and can't find a single scan where Superman looks good vs Despero solo.

No to address the bald faced lie about Lobo hurting Despero.

Lobo has never even Fought Despero. He has fought L-Ron in Despero's body. L-ron was a robot servant to the JLA who when he fought Lobo had been in Despero's body for all of a few hours. He was completely unfamiliar with controlling an organic life form let alone had a full ahndle on all Desperos powers. He still wasn't damaged by Lobo AT ALL

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/1105612-justiceleagueamerica58p02.jpg

So if taking a few hits from Lobo when he is actually WORKING OUT (his own words and by those same words he never does), All he manages to do is ake afew lumps before he replies and sends Lobo flying.

here is next issue's continuation

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/1105611-justiceleagueamerica58p01.jpg

And that is vs a Despero body under the control of an artificial intelligence that has no idea how to use that body to it;s best. It's also vs a guy who can when he is working hard pull stellar mass out of the sky

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111251126/5034809-9633783150-11-1..jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111251126/5034810-4511979408-12-1..jpg

So a guy who when working outr can pull stars outr of the sky lays two heymackers when also working out and can't even put an inexperienced mind controlling apowerhouse body down and gets pasted straight away is your idea of a feat for the character at full control of his powers being hurt?????

I call BS on that shit

When beatboks goes on the rampage....

lol

Originally posted by Raisen
hey guys. i'm a DC fan.

Actually I'm a comic fan not a DC fan. Currently debating Faggirl over on ICT when where I'm repping MCU Hela vs her ridiculously biased view of DCEU WW

whoever is the DC guy is winning this matchup. i'm going to compare whoever it is to how he would do against superman because i believe superman beats any marvel guy. i also don't see anything wrong with thinking like this because I feel powerless in my own life and superman is kind of a captain save a hoe for me so i'll defend him with all my emotions

Sorry my mistake, its not that you didn't read but your ability to is limited. I mean why else would you repeat this ridiculous statement when it's countering a statement that clearly implies Superman would loose to the Marvel character in question I pretty much stated that Despero in a purely h2h hand fight would loose to WBH and that same character in that same style of fight beat Superman when he has the help of three others in his strength level and several others for support in the evidence I offered.

Who's the fanboy here??? It's not the one offering evidence to support their stance.

originally posted by RealityWarper

True laughing out loud

He believes that Dr Fate has reality warping powers at universal-level by the way. -.-

this explains a lot, Never knew you had literacy problems also.

I have never made such a statement. Fact is I have never even stated reality warping is a power of any version of Fate. Being immune to reality manipulation is not the same thing as possessing reality maniip.

Don't swallow that foot now will you 😆